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Jun 4, 2023 15 tweets 4 min read Read on X
Ohio cryptic lineage update.

We’ve made no progress identifying the individual, but we have learned a few things.
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First, the signal is almost always present in the Columbus Southerly sewershed, but not always at Washington Court House. I assume this means the person lives in Columbus and travels to WCH, presumably for work.
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Second, the signal is increasing with time. Washington Court House had its highest SARS-CoV-2 wastewater levels ever in May, and the most recent sequencing indicates that this is entirely the cryptic lineage.
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Third, I’ve tried to calculate how much viral material this person is shedding. (Multiply the cryptic concentration by the total volume). I’ve done this several times and gotten pretty consistent results.
They are shedding a few trillion (10^12) genomes/day.
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What does this tell us? How much tissue is infected? It’s impossible to know for sure. Chronically infected cells probably don't release much, but acutely infected cells produce a lot more. I gather a typical output in the lab is around 1,000 virus per infected cell.
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If we assume we are getting 1,000 viral particles per infected cell, that would mean there are at least a billion infected cells. The density of monolayer epithelial cells is around 300k cells/sq cm. A billion cells would represent around 3.5 square feet of epithelial tissue!
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Don’t get me wrong. The intestines have a huge surface are and 3 square feet is a tiny fraction of the total.
But it’s still a massive infection, no matter how you slice it.
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I do not know of any persistent infections that shed this much virus without killing the patient. (Correct me if I’m wrong). The closest would probably be HCV, an infection that often ends in liver cancer.
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My point is that this patient is not well, even if they don’t know it, but they could probably be helped if they were identified.
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How do you figure out if you have a COVID GI infection. Most rapid antigen test are not explicitly for stool. However, I know of at least one that is. The instructions from that test say to mix a ‘matchhead’ worth of feces with the buffer.
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dyonmedical.com/en/corona-ag-a… Image
I can tell you that with very positive wastewater samples we got a positive by just sticking the swab into the wastewater before adding it to the buffer. Either way, it is essential to use the buffer provided or the test doesn’t work.
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If you do get a positive reading, I would suggest having someone else try with the same kind of test with their feces to be sure it isn’t a false positive. Weird shit happens.
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If you are the individual, let me know. There is a lab in the US that can do 'official' tests for COVID in stool, and there are doctors that I can put you in contact with that would like to try to help you.
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What's more, if we can figure out how these infections occur, and how to treat them, it could potentially help out a whole lot of people.
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Two comments I should have made in my thread.

Washington Court House is a town of 15k (not an actual courthouse).

I haven't invaded anyone's privacy. Approximately 1600 people commute between Columbus and WCH. That isn't enough information to pinpoint the source.

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Sep 10
This really pisses me off.

I obviously knew there was some manipulation of post metrics on social media, but I really didn’t realize just how hard this platform slams the breaks on posts it doesn’t like.

Here’s my experiment.
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This weekend I posted 3 threads.

1. on a cryptic lineage
2. on H5N1
3. on seasonal respiratory viruses

Each time I posted the threads on X and bsky at the same time.
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The three threads each got roughly the same attention on bsky.
However, on X the first 2 each had hundreds of RTs and over 1k likes.
The 3rd was practically invisible. It had only 5 RTs and 28 likes after 2 days. Over 40-times fewer views.

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Our wastewater dashboard was updated yesterday (we’re behind because of an equipment failure).

I’d like to point out some things you can learn from the dashboard about respiratory virus [post v.2, bleeped version].

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lungfish-science.github.io/wastewater-das…Image
As you can see, rhinovirus season (which started in the Spring) is pretty much over.
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Parainfluenzavirus 3 season, which also tends to peak in late Spring, has also pretty much wound down.
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Our wastewater dashboard was updated yesterday (we’re behind because of an equipment failure).

I’d like to point out some things you can learn from the dashboard about respiratory virus [and stupid vaccine policy].
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lungfish-science.github.io/wastewater-das…
As you can see, rhinovirus season (which started in the Spring) is pretty much over.
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Parainfluenzavirus 3 season, which also tends to peak in late Spring, has also pretty much wound down.
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Sep 6
I’ve found cryptic lineages from sequencing wastewater.

I’ve found cryptic lineages from screening databases.

This is the first time I’ve found a cryptic lineage from social media.

This was an interesting story.
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Earlier this summer someone poked me to ask what the deal was with Coeur d’Alene, ID whose COVID numbers were consistently the highest in the country (by far).

I couldn’t find the post, so if this was you, please take credit.
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It did look suspicious, extremely high and sustained COVID levels, but my sources said they didn’t have any out of the ordinary case levels.

This was consistent with a cryptic lineage.
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Aug 22
It’s been 2 days, 143 comments, and I’ve been called lots of bad names.
Here’s what I learned about protein based Novavax (NV) vs mRNA COVID vaccines.
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The pretty universally agreed on difference is that Novavax has fewer side effects.
If you have bad vaccine reactions, it is probably the better choice.
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There are other differences too. NV is protein based, so the immune response is antibody focused, while the mRNA is response is broader and produces both antibodies and CTLs.
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SARS-CoV-2 lineages come up with new constellations of mutations in 3 main ways.
1. Sequential acquisition of mutations during normal circulation.
2. Recombination.
3. Sweeping new lineages (almost certainly from persistent infections).
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BA.2.86 was one of the sweeping changes. When it first appeared in Israel I thought it was a persistent infection, most of which never spread. Then it appeared in Denmark too.
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