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NYC Angry Mom @angrybklynmom July 28, 2021 15:48

For anyone who is wondering, this appears to be one of the studies (the primary?) that @CDCgov @CDCDirector used to justify the new mask rules. The study does not even appear to have been performed on actual humans?

https://twitter.com/GuptaR_lab/status/1407947788416135169

NYC Angry Mom @angrybklynmom July 28, 2021 15:53

Hi, @MonicaGandhi9 , @WesPegden , @sailorrooscout , @sdbaral , @BallouxFrancois - anyone else? Would love some neutral opinions about this study. As of now, it was rejected once by peer review & now shows as 'revise'.

Aaron Astor @AstorAaron July 28, 2021 15:55

@angrybklynmom @MonicaGandhi9 @WesPegden @sailorrooscout @sdbaral @BallouxFrancois I don't think this study was the one that contributed to CDC's thinking. There is apparently some heretofore unpublished data out there on viral load.

Thor (💉²) 🔜 🤷‍♂️ @PupsterCA July 28, 2021 17:49

@sailorrooscout And 'Dr'DingDong is going on a victory lap proclaiming he single-handedly got the CDC to reverse itself and masks will fix everything, while ignoring the fact that any impetus to get vaccinated just went out the window based on garbage data. *facepaw* The st00pid, it burns.

Timothy, The Vaxxed Homo #BLM #TeamBidenHarris @ncanarchist July 28, 2021 16:03

@AstorAaron @angrybklynmom @MonicaGandhi9 @WesPegden @sailorrooscout @sdbaral @BallouxFrancois Why ARE they using it?

Aaron Astor @AstorAaron July 28, 2021 16:05

@ncanarchist @angrybklynmom @MonicaGandhi9 @WesPegden @sailorrooscout @sdbaral @BallouxFrancois CDC was up front about the limits of that study, but yeah, we don't use those vaccines so they are irrelevant.

Timothy, The Vaxxed Homo #BLM #TeamBidenHarris @ncanarchist July 28, 2021 16:19

@AstorAaron @angrybklynmom @MonicaGandhi9 @WesPegden @sailorrooscout @sdbaral @BallouxFrancois It's good they were but it shouldn't be used.

Aaron Astor @AstorAaron July 28, 2021 16:59

@ncanarchist @angrybklynmom @MonicaGandhi9 @WesPegden @sailorrooscout @sdbaral @BallouxFrancois I agree because it deceptively lends weight to the argument when it actually adds nothing at all.

Timothy, The Vaxxed Homo #BLM #TeamBidenHarris @ncanarchist July 28, 2021 17:00

@AstorAaron @angrybklynmom @MonicaGandhi9 @WesPegden @sailorrooscout @sdbaral @BallouxFrancois Honestly we all need an explanation. Especially since Indian cases have gone down using OUR vaccines... this is also when Delta was running amok there. It's not like we're dropping like flies here!

Paul-B @pfb0417 July 28, 2021 18:25

@ncanarchist @AstorAaron @angrybklynmom @MonicaGandhi9 @WesPegden @sailorrooscout @sdbaral @BallouxFrancois Because they are too lazy and incompetent to do their own research. They only have 15,000 people working there and haven't even investigated whether or not the 300+ children that died of covid-19 had preexisting conditions or comorbidities

J00d0k1ck @j00d0k1ck July 28, 2021 17:34

@ncanarchist @AstorAaron @angrybklynmom @MonicaGandhi9 @WesPegden @sailorrooscout @sdbaral @BallouxFrancois To control you

Raymond Roentgen @RaymondRoentgen July 28, 2021 17:51

@AstorAaron @angrybklynmom @MonicaGandhi9 @WesPegden @sailorrooscout @sdbaral @BallouxFrancois It’s pretty funny that you think the US vaccines are approved in the US. All of them are still experimental. You are the experiment.

Calbert Stimson @CalbertStimson July 28, 2021 18:20

@RaymondRoentgen @AstorAaron @angrybklynmom @MonicaGandhi9 @WesPegden @sailorrooscout @sdbaral @BallouxFrancois You're an experiment.

Osito @driver6_f1 July 28, 2021 18:39

@AstorAaron @angrybklynmom @MonicaGandhi9 @WesPegden @sailorrooscout @sdbaral @BallouxFrancois "Suggest"? It right down STATES it was from other vaccines. WTF?

Brian Brian @FluffheadTrades July 28, 2021 16:51

@AstorAaron @angrybklynmom @MonicaGandhi9 @WesPegden @sailorrooscout @sdbaral @BallouxFrancois Hahaha yeah okkkk, we all believe you. That makes sense! Of course, why would they be talking about a US vaccine?

Connection Doctor, Empathy Guru @PezeshkiCharles July 28, 2021 16:00

@angrybklynmom @MonicaGandhi9 @WesPegden @sailorrooscout @sdbaral @BallouxFrancois OK -- I read it. I am indeed a scientist. Looking at this, I'd say "so what?" Other researchers have been saying Delta is more infectious, etc. But that won't change the tools available to us. And the paper does comment on vaccine efficacy. They still work.

Connection Doctor, Empathy Guru @PezeshkiCharles July 28, 2021 16:03

@angrybklynmom @MonicaGandhi9 @WesPegden @sailorrooscout @sdbaral @BallouxFrancois The problem from a societal standpoint is going to be research like this is weaponized for implementing ineffective, disruptive NPIs. There's nothing in that paper that shows how to have an NPI that works. We're still stuck with this Deep OS problem.

The Structural Memetics of Masks Braden and Mary, from a long time ago, Meadow Creek, Idaho There have been lots of controversial non-pharmaceutical interventions (NPIs) in the pandemic. And most of us have gone along with most of… http://empathy.guru/2021/07/19/the-structural-memetics-of-masks/

Aaron Astor @AstorAaron July 28, 2021 16:04

@angrybklynmom @MonicaGandhi9 @WesPegden @sailorrooscout @sdbaral @BallouxFrancois Apparently the viral load data is forthcoming. Hopefully soon. Not just for CDC credibility but to see the duration of high viral load in vax breakthroughs. If it's just the first day or two post-infection, it wouldn't be surprising.

https://twitter.com/uche_blackstock/status/1420397214350852101?s=20

Ghosty @El_Ghostyy July 28, 2021 16:05

@angrybklynmom @MonicaGandhi9 @WesPegden @sailorrooscout @sdbaral @BallouxFrancois Around July 25-26 we hit “2000” covid cases daily again. Today I noticed that the amount of covid cases for the past week have been retroactively reduced in NYS/NYC. What do you make of this?

james tweets @james_ptweets1 July 28, 2021 15:59

@angrybklynmom @MonicaGandhi9 @WesPegden @sailorrooscout @sdbaral @BallouxFrancois What vaccines? If they were not Pfizer, Moderna or Astra Zeneca I’d say they are dubious at best

Ryan Horath @therealrthorat July 28, 2021 15:58

@angrybklynmom @MonicaGandhi9 @WesPegden @sailorrooscout @sdbaral @BallouxFrancois Oh my God. It's a model with massive uncertainties. For the love of God, can we stop with the models.

District AI @districtai July 28, 2021 15:53

@angrybklynmom @CDCgov @CDCDirector Yes this study was flawed from the beginning.

Same Planet Different World @brocccolini July 28, 2021 15:52

@angrybklynmom @CDCgov @CDCDirector More "mathematical modeling" 🙄

Psyche's Dagger @PsychesDagger July 28, 2021 15:50

@angrybklynmom @CDCgov @CDCDirector Sadly, the study not being performed on actual humans would be nothing new for CDC recommendations...

Blueberry @hey1steaksauce July 28, 2021 15:56

@angrybklynmom @AWokeZombie @CDCgov @CDCDirector It was also rejected after peer review. Now they’re scrambling to get it re-reviewed so they can accept it and pretend this never happened.

AnnMarie Antol @bumblebee7183 July 28, 2021 15:54

@angrybklynmom @AWokeZombie @CDCgov @CDCDirector they want us to believe a study that was not actually done on humans? umm no thank you. don't believe anymore of the lies they spew to us daily.

John Brokens @JohnBrokens July 28, 2021 17:41

@angrybklynmom @CDCgov @CDCDirector Why do you think it was one of the studies "used" by the the CDC to support mask use? How many other studies were "used"? Did they study actual humans? What makes you think this is/was the primary study?

John Brokens @JohnBrokens July 28, 2021 17:44

@angrybklynmom @CDCgov @CDCDirector And are you insinuating that Indian people aren't human. Mad racist!

Thinking fast and slow @ElleMandell July 28, 2021 17:58

@angrybklynmom @The_OtherET @CDCgov @CDCDirector

https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1420443258170351620

MasksR4Morons @Juli55533841 July 28, 2021 16:57

@angrybklynmom @CDCgov @CDCDirector I'm not a scientist, but when did "modeling" become a complete substitute for real world observations? I have watched for over 18 months as these "scientific" models have proven to be utter garbage over and over again.