Well, this argument is mostly based on the criterion of dissimilarity/embrassement. Yes they are valid tools and methods of argumentation, but I dont think that this really convinces me in this case. And that is for the reason that I, from my paradigm, can fully maybe...
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https://twitter.com/1Rebii/status/1837132177588506844
trace the transimmison of this tradition to its commonlink al-Zuhri (671-741AD), and with some chances maybe to Said Ibn al-Musayyib (637-715). So the point about there being no reason to forge this because it could have been easily exposed, because...
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every one would have known that the time that the desciptions of the events were not accurate, doesnt really work. And that is for the reason that I would argue that the time frame of the fabrication could have been somewhere around maybe from around 680-735AD, most...
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probably I would say closer to the 735AD mark, because atleast I would say, that the most likely fabricator would be al-Zuhri. And If we are to look that there tens of years on between of the original event and the probable fabrication, then I dont think that the...
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point about it being *so* weird and easily to be exposed really stands. And also there really isnt much documentation of this erruption in Islamic sources, like there is for The Harrat Rahat, so these details, I would assume, would not have been that *unprobable* to...
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be fabricated because there wasnt that much knowledge of it. Now, yes my case rests upon some heavy methodological assumptions and choices, but I still, atleast from my paradigm, see this as a totally valid explanation.
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To add, could there by some insights that maybe @IslamicOrigins or @hadithworks could share to use regarding this particular topic?
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