Since the targeted demographics have almost zero public platform, the Western media are sincerely unaware that their perspectives do even exist. This is a major factor behind the outrageous perspective laundering we are witnessing today
Accusing any critics of being "Putinist" is largely a preparation for their next move - which is shift the blame for Putinism on *minorities*, once they take power
(They're already doing this btw. Will give details in next thread)
The current illusion of "consensus" around @navalny succession is based on:
1) Asian/Muslim population having nearly zero representation in the Western media
2) The Western media choosing to ignore an uncomfortable phenomenon: criticism of the regime *from the far right* stance
3) Most commenters ignoring an obvious truth: Putin will not be overthrown by any sort of popular rebellion. @navalny'sts can't overthrow Putin, nor can they contribute to his overthrowal. They can only capitalise on the Russian military defeat & fall of regime, once it happens
4) The debate on @navalny's succession is not a debate on how to defeat Putin. These guys can't and won't. It's a debate on how should Russia look and be run, once the regime suffers a military defeat. Therefore, comparing their (potential) rule with Putin's is illogical ...
... The prospect of the (potential) @navalny's reign should be compared not with the Putin's reign, but with all the other alternatives
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a) first, take power
b) *then* be calling for tribunals over your critics
Once in Kremlin, you can jail whomever misfortunate enough to be within your reach. Until then you need to:
1) make *specific* accusations 2) provide evidence
Daily reminder
@navalny'st tactic when facing *any* criticism is:
a) ad hominem attack against their critic
b) some made up lie about him or her
(a) doesn't surprise me at all. It is (b) that is amazing
Can @leonidvolkov provide any evidence for the payroll claim for example?
If you can't prove your claim, then why making it all? Be vague, produce some insinuation that doesn't require much proof (as it contains no statement of fact). You can take example from a few Western academicians, who are smart enough to be vague in their smear
In reality Navalny's succession can happen only *after* the Russian military defeat. It's not that they want (or can) stop the war. It's them aiming to save & reboot system *after* the defeat
That's what many (clueless) Westerners aren't getting. "@Navalny team may not be perfect, but at least they'll stop the war". No, it's the other way around. They can't and are not going to stop the war. What they could do is to capitalise on the impending Russian defeat
Once again, they are not bringing the Russian military defeat closer, but want to capitalise on it. Therefore, the @navalny movement should be discussed into the context of the endgame. What is the *positive* scenario for when this war ends?
1. There were (allegedly) hundreds of thousands Chechens willing to be a part of Russia 2. Yeltsin bombed them to ashes Mariupol-style 3. "Not clear what was an alternative"
How exactly are these guys different from Putin? Same crazy, murderous mindset
Fact
Modern Russia is more of a product of Chechen Wars than of Putin's personality. Remilitarization, buildup of security state, they all started due to the First War. By the late 1990s Yeltsin was actively looking for a KGB heir. All his three last PMs were from state security
Moscow liberals want to portray Putin as an "accident". He was not. The system chose Putin, not the other way around. Yeltsin elevated Putin from nothing, started another war to facilitate his succession and used the lowkey nuclear blackmail when Clinton tried to argue
Yes, and there is a book I strongly recommend for the better understanding of *modern* Russia and its origins
"The Time of Berezovsky" by Petr Aven
Absolute, absolute gem. Unfortunately, I am unaware of any translation into English
Shame
The Time of Berezovsky is not really a narrative. It is a collection of interviews on the 1990s, centred around the figure of the most flamboyant of the oligarchs. Interviewer (himself an oligarch) talks with politicians, businessmen, journalists
3. Many independence movements (including your own), did not start as such. They aimed for very moderate goals. Or at least we nowadays retrospectively see them as moderate. Their agenda was pronouncedly loyalist. There was little open separatism except for a handful of radicals
4. Many independence movements (including your own) were not led by some cartoonish "regime fighters". They were led by the moneyed, landed, influential individuals who had been *successfully integrated to the previous regime*. Think about Washington or Franklin
This is correct. When forming your opinion about @navalny movement, consume as much of their *external* propaganda specifically directed at foreign audience (=you) as you can. Do not look at their *internal* propaganda though
@navalny@k_sonin's comment is very telling. Notice that he directs you to the content (Op-Eds, movies) constructed specifically for the foreign audience by the largely clueless Western media:
Moscow cultural establishment -> Western media -> You
That's just perspective laundering
The power of the imperial capital is not based only on force. It is also based on the *monopoly of representation*. Verified facts about Russia are being constructed by the Western media. But these media are largely clueless, drawing their opinions from the Moscow establishment