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@orientalismus
Apr 26 • 6 tweets • 2 min read
Here are my issues with your take
-Ataturk's speech is eloquent, representing the speech of highly educated Turks of the Ottoman era. Not the vernacular Turkish of today or 1920s
-There are like 2 Persian words there. Rest is Arabic.
-No union based on loanwords existed.
-Wrong "Loanwords prove we're the same" the same Arabic loanwords exist in very significant amounts in Spanish and Hindi too.
Mar 22 • 6 tweets • 2 min read
The Ottomans had attempts at industrialization in the 18th century but it fell behind England, France, Germany because... As I was saying, the Ottoman Empire had a very small population despite its huge land. So the population density was low. Image Everything really boils down to this. Without a big population you cannot catch up to Europe.
Feb 25 • 6 tweets • 1 min read
I was asked this and the similarities between the Qing and the Ottoman Empire are rather superficial and the problems they faced were mostly entirely different. Image Qing was barely interested in Westernization (their self-strenghthening movement was more like acquiring military hardware without going into much detail) while the Ottomans had been trying to Westernize BOTH socially and militarily.
Oct 17, 2023 • 4 tweets • 1 min read
Had Seljuks managed to subjugate the entirety of the Byzantine Empire by the 1100s, it'd have been quite interesting.
The Turks wouldn't have a large population to subdue the native Christians (bulk of the Turkmen population came after 1200s due to Mongol pressure). And- -the Seljuk elites were not concerned with Turkification at all. They themselves spoke Persian.
I suppose it'd have been something like a medieval version of Mughals where a Persian speaking Turkic elite would rule over vast masses of Anatolians, Greeks, Slavs and Albanians.
May 15, 2023 • 4 tweets • 1 min read
Madagascar tried to Westernize in the 19th century, decades before Japan. They brought in French industrialists and British missionaries to build factories, schools and a modern army and bureaucracy. It was a complete and utter failure because- Image -Madagascar didn't have a pre-existing wage economy and could only get people to work by enslaving them.

There was also a lack of infrastructure (because the state wanted to keep the invaders out by not investing in infrastructure).
May 15, 2023 • 4 tweets • 1 min read
Ipsos had a new study regarding Belief in God or a higher power by country. Not sure about the results but interesting results for Turkey and several other countries. Image Religion identification by country in the poll Image
May 14, 2023 • 6 tweets • 1 min read
Slavs are the most recent European ethnicity (if we assume that the Illyrians were Albanians).
There was literally no mention of Slavs until 600s. Then suddenly they migrated to half of Eastern Europe and were at the gates of Constantinople. When Huns migrated to Europe (or more like conquered it), hundreds of thousands of Germanics were displaced from Eastern Europe. Same can't be said for Slavic peoples.
May 10, 2023 • 4 tweets • 2 min read
Reason for Ottoman Empire having a low population (which has always been the reality but was covered by rapid conquests made possible by excellent military leadership and novel combination of gunpowder tactics with steppe warfare) was nomadism and possibly plagues. Anatolia had a population of 5 million people (Eastern Anatolia included would probably be around 6 million people) in 1520s. 1 million people were nomads. Anatolia's population was halved between 1000 AD-1520 AD
May 10, 2023 • 7 tweets • 2 min read
Partially wrong. Ottomans fell behind Europe because there was a demographic crisis (low population) that exacerbated tax/military issues. By 1900 the Ottoman Empire had a lower population than Italy. Low population means lower taxes and smaller militaries.
Something that can't be overlooked.
ALL European states that were industrialized&major powers had a very large population. Germany, France, the UK (incl colonies) were major demographic houses.
May 9, 2023 • 4 tweets • 1 min read
Very European indeed Chinese sources are quite mixed on Turks' appearances (in Central Asia, of course).
But Gokturk-era Turkics in Central Asia do seem to be a mix between West Eurasian and East Eurasian populations, with the former being more prominent. Image
May 9, 2023 • 5 tweets • 1 min read
Child mortality rates being comparable to Russia, average life expectancy being identical to Europe, yield of grain per acre being identical or above Western Europe, no major disease outbreaks that are extreme compared to the European ones all point out to something:
Nomads Agricultural land being turned into grazing lands for nomads (include pack animals, cattle, sheep and horses as well) is probably the very highly likely reason for Anatolia having a low population until 1900s. I fail to see any other reason.
That has to be it.
Apr 24, 2023 • 5 tweets • 2 min read
One mutual talked to me via dm about the possibility of a chud uprising due to increasing sexlessness rates and declining fertility rates.
This already happened in history once around 9k years ago and chads won. Chuds lost. There is genetic evidence for this. See the graph. Image To make you understand the graph, there was a DECLINE in diversity of Y-DNAs, that is transmitted from male side.
Which means, men disappeared. Guess how.
Apr 24, 2023 • 4 tweets • 1 min read
Reminder that Thule (Inuits) replaced Dorset in Arctic. Image Image
Apr 24, 2023 • 4 tweets • 1 min read
One of the biggest strengths, if not the greatest strength, of the USA is that it can waste trillions on some useless project and conflict and get away with it.
Wars in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan prove that.
When USSR tried to invade Afghanistan, its economy imploded. Okay after Vietnam Nixon got rid of the standard and created a shock in 70s but USA never collapsed.
Apr 23, 2023 • 4 tweets • 1 min read
That guy also has a weird hatred towards Anatolian Turks and worked for Greek nat papers.
Turns out he is actually an ex muslim. I was wondering why he was targeting Turks. He legitimatey once compared Turks to Greeks and Dai people from Myanmar to conclude that Turkic impact was 10%. My guy actually literally implied that Seljuk era Turkmens were from Myanmar.
Apr 23, 2023 • 4 tweets • 1 min read
漢陽 but the 漢 actually comes from the river that was Seoul was founded next to.
漢 in Korean just means big and the native word for it was called Han, which also happens to be the Han Dynasty in China and thus the name "Han" was transliterated into 漢 in Hanja. In short 漢 was taken only for its sound value in Chinese and not the meaning.
Apr 22, 2023 • 4 tweets • 1 min read
Important note after I saw a take on the first thread I created Now, Huns in my opinion are most likely a Turkic people but the very reason why this Hun woman is close to Tatars and Turks is because she has Slavic, Balkan and EAST EURASIAN heritage that are also found in Tatars and in Turks to some extent (in Turks the components are similar)
Apr 22, 2023 • 4 tweets • 1 min read
Lol, lmao even Oh it's from 2008 so it kind of explains this. Image
Mar 27, 2023 • 4 tweets • 1 min read
Hittites don't descend from Yamnaya in the first place They descend from a CHG population that gave birth to both Yamnaya and Hittite. So Yamnaya and Hittites are half-brothers. Yamnaya being EHG+CHG and Hittites being EEF+CHG.
Mar 26, 2023 • 4 tweets • 1 min read
Apparently Austrian cities have "alternate Turkic names" that were coined by the Ottomans.
Wien: Beç
Kahlenberg: Almandağı
Graz: Gradçe
Inssbruck: Cisr-i Ene
Bad Deutsch-Altenburg: Altunbardak
Gussing: Kösek Prague was called Yüz Kuleli?
Mar 26, 2023 • 5 tweets • 1 min read
Anyway, here are some Crimean Tatar/Turkish names for cities in Ukraine

Poltava: Baltavar
Kyiv: Qıyab, Man Kirman, Kiyef, Kiyevya, Baştu, Sambatas, Zanbat
Chernihiv: Karacar
Mariupol: Kalcık, Kalçık, Kalmus, Kalmus Palanka, Domaha, Balı-Saray
Lvov: İlbav, Eylov, Livov, Lemberek Mykolaiv: Buğ Liman
Bakhmut: Mahmut
Stakhanov: Kadıköy