Thread by @ncdave4life

@JoeTheAtheist @nix_bit @Gladfly1 @KCTaz @OscarsWild1 @Bananenrijperij @insane_voice @Tokyo_Tom @BadgersNo @tfer68 @EthonRaptor @dvibrationz @GillesnFio @Vieux_Rhone @JosephS36875398 @DrSusanBarring1 @badmoonrising11 @ClimatePoet @Schtickery @Kenneth72712993 @AtomsksSanakan @octal_ @Jamz129 @PolAnimalAus @horrdorr @pinangodan @FrankWi74044551 @NikolovScience @AOECOIN @DawnTJ90 @swcrisis @FactFascist @KGrumpallo @stevethib @FrankChanged @DonWils13730132 @ElQuesoSabio @Creamih8 @Vulgar_wit @dltff_ya @MATTP1949 @whyofweb @KnowYourGreen1 @su_js1 @Silence54994655 @TyotoRiffle @Tangomitteckel @AlanBlackMD @ideapalooza @NASA [1/8] You better get your glasses checked, Joe. The graph is plainly labeled Honolulu, not Hilo.

Hilo is on the Big Island. Honolulu is on Oahu.

Oahu is an old, tectonically stable island. It's several million years old, which is about 4x the age of the Big Island.

@JoeTheAtheist @nix_bit @Gladfly1 @KCTaz @OscarsWild1 @Bananenrijperij @insane_voice @Tokyo_Tom @BadgersNo @tfer68 @EthonRaptor @dvibrationz @GillesnFio @Vieux_Rhone @JosephS36875398 @DrSusanBarring1 @badmoonrising11 @ClimatePoet @Schtickery @Kenneth72712993 @AtomsksSanakan @octal_ @Jamz129 @PolAnimalAus @horrdorr @pinangodan @FrankWi74044551 @NikolovScience @AOECOIN @DawnTJ90 @swcrisis @FactFascist @KGrumpallo @stevethib @FrankChanged @DonWils13730132 @ElQuesoSabio @Creamih8 @Vulgar_wit @dltff_ya @MATTP1949 @whyofweb @KnowYourGreen1 @su_js1 @Silence54994655 @TyotoRiffle @Tangomitteckel @AlanBlackMD @ideapalooza @NASA [2/8 The volcanoes on Oahu are believed to have been inactive for well over a million years. Like all the Hawaiian islands, it is moving horizontally, to the NW, about three inches per year. But not vertically.

@JoeTheAtheist @nix_bit @Gladfly1 @KCTaz @OscarsWild1 @Bananenrijperij @insane_voice @Tokyo_Tom @BadgersNo @tfer68 @EthonRaptor @dvibrationz @GillesnFio @Vieux_Rhone @JosephS36875398 @DrSusanBarring1 @badmoonrising11 @ClimatePoet @Schtickery @Kenneth72712993 @AtomsksSanakan @octal_ @Jamz129 @PolAnimalAus @horrdorr @pinangodan @FrankWi74044551 @NikolovScience @AOECOIN @DawnTJ90 @swcrisis @FactFascist @KGrumpallo @stevethib @FrankChanged @DonWils13730132 @ElQuesoSabio @Creamih8 @Vulgar_wit @dltff_ya @MATTP1949 @whyofweb @KnowYourGreen1 @su_js1 @Silence54994655 @TyotoRiffle @Tangomitteckel @AlanBlackMD @ideapalooza @NASA [3/8] Peltier's ICE-6G(VM5a) estimate is that Honolulu is experiencing just 0.10 mm/yr uplift. Ref:
atmosp.physics.utoronto.ca/~peltier/datas…

@JoeTheAtheist @nix_bit @Gladfly1 @KCTaz @OscarsWild1 @Bananenrijperij @insane_voice @Tokyo_Tom @BadgersNo @tfer68 @EthonRaptor @dvibrationz @GillesnFio @Vieux_Rhone @JosephS36875398 @DrSusanBarring1 @badmoonrising11 @ClimatePoet @Schtickery @Kenneth72712993 @AtomsksSanakan @octal_ @Jamz129 @PolAnimalAus @horrdorr @pinangodan @FrankWi74044551 @NikolovScience @AOECOIN @DawnTJ90 @swcrisis @FactFascist @KGrumpallo @stevethib @FrankChanged @DonWils13730132 @ElQuesoSabio @Creamih8 @Vulgar_wit @dltff_ya @MATTP1949 @whyofweb @KnowYourGreen1 @su_js1 @Silence54994655 @TyotoRiffle @Tangomitteckel @AlanBlackMD @ideapalooza @NASA [4/8] SONEL's analysis indicates that Honolulu is subsiding (rather than rising), but just 0.23 ±0.18 mm/yr:
sonel.org/spip.php?page=…
Screenshot:
sealevel.info/Honolulu_HNLC_…

@JoeTheAtheist @nix_bit @Gladfly1 @KCTaz @OscarsWild1 @Bananenrijperij @insane_voice @Tokyo_Tom @BadgersNo @tfer68 @EthonRaptor @dvibrationz @GillesnFio @Vieux_Rhone @JosephS36875398 @DrSusanBarring1 @badmoonrising11 @ClimatePoet @Schtickery @Kenneth72712993 @AtomsksSanakan @octal_ @Jamz129 @PolAnimalAus @horrdorr @pinangodan @FrankWi74044551 @NikolovScience @AOECOIN @DawnTJ90 @swcrisis @FactFascist @KGrumpallo @stevethib @FrankChanged @DonWils13730132 @ElQuesoSabio @Creamih8 @Vulgar_wit @dltff_ya @MATTP1949 @whyofweb @KnowYourGreen1 @su_js1 @Silence54994655 @TyotoRiffle @Tangomitteckel @AlanBlackMD @ideapalooza @NASA [5/8] The CORS plot is flat as a pancake:
ftp://www.ngs.noaa.gov/cors/Plots/Longterm/hnlc_14.long.png
Also saved here:
sealevel.info/hnlc_14.long.p…

@JoeTheAtheist @nix_bit @Gladfly1 @KCTaz @OscarsWild1 @Bananenrijperij @insane_voice @Tokyo_Tom @BadgersNo @tfer68 @EthonRaptor @dvibrationz @GillesnFio @Vieux_Rhone @JosephS36875398 @DrSusanBarring1 @badmoonrising11 @ClimatePoet @Schtickery @Kenneth72712993 @AtomsksSanakan @octal_ @Jamz129 @PolAnimalAus @horrdorr @pinangodan @FrankWi74044551 @NikolovScience @AOECOIN @DawnTJ90 @swcrisis @FactFascist @KGrumpallo @stevethib @FrankChanged @DonWils13730132 @ElQuesoSabio @Creamih8 @Vulgar_wit @dltff_ya @MATTP1949 @whyofweb @KnowYourGreen1 @su_js1 @Silence54994655 @TyotoRiffle @Tangomitteckel @AlanBlackMD @ideapalooza @NASA [6/8] All those numbers are tiny: +0.1 and -0.23 are opposite sign but not far apart. In other words, the models and measurements agree that Oahu is experiences little or no vertical land motion.

@JoeTheAtheist @nix_bit @Gladfly1 @KCTaz @OscarsWild1 @Bananenrijperij @insane_voice @Tokyo_Tom @BadgersNo @tfer68 @EthonRaptor @dvibrationz @GillesnFio @Vieux_Rhone @JosephS36875398 @DrSusanBarring1 @badmoonrising11 @ClimatePoet @Schtickery @Kenneth72712993 @AtomsksSanakan @octal_ @Jamz129 @PolAnimalAus @horrdorr @pinangodan @FrankWi74044551 @NikolovScience @AOECOIN @DawnTJ90 @swcrisis @FactFascist @KGrumpallo @stevethib @FrankChanged @DonWils13730132 @ElQuesoSabio @Creamih8 @Vulgar_wit @dltff_ya @MATTP1949 @whyofweb @KnowYourGreen1 @su_js1 @Silence54994655 @TyotoRiffle @Tangomitteckel @AlanBlackMD @ideapalooza @NASA [7/8] Oahu also gets only small tides, it's far from the influence of the "Greenland effect," and its mid-Pacific location is near the pivot point of the east-west Pacific "teeter-totter," so it is little affected by ENSO "slosh."

@JoeTheAtheist @nix_bit @Gladfly1 @KCTaz @OscarsWild1 @Bananenrijperij @insane_voice @Tokyo_Tom @BadgersNo @tfer68 @EthonRaptor @dvibrationz @GillesnFio @Vieux_Rhone @JosephS36875398 @DrSusanBarring1 @badmoonrising11 @ClimatePoet @Schtickery @Kenneth72712993 @AtomsksSanakan @octal_ @Jamz129 @PolAnimalAus @horrdorr @pinangodan @FrankWi74044551 @NikolovScience @AOECOIN @DawnTJ90 @swcrisis @FactFascist @KGrumpallo @stevethib @FrankChanged @DonWils13730132 @ElQuesoSabio @Creamih8 @Vulgar_wit @dltff_ya @MATTP1949 @whyofweb @KnowYourGreen1 @su_js1 @Silence54994655 @TyotoRiffle @Tangomitteckel @AlanBlackMD @ideapalooza @NASA [8/8] The only thing atypical about Honolulu's sea-level measurement record is its very high quality. The trend there (about +1½ mm/year = 6 inches/century) is perfectly typical.

(Note the building elevation, not the beach width; the beach has been widened via "renourishment.")