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@JoeTheAtheist @insane_voice @PolAnimalAus @ClimatePoet @WadeKendall4 @AtomsksSanakan @TheDisproof @NikolovScience @tracemetalclean @CymaticWave @Gladfly1 @OscarsWild1 @PierreTherrie14 @horrdorr @GillesnFio @Tangomitteckel @Kenneth72712993 @DawnTJ90 @swcrisis @Tokyo_Tom @JsharkJill @EthonRaptor @KCTaz @foresaken1 @Jamz129 @Vieux_Rhone @dvibrationz @Schtickery @pinangodan @FrankWi74044551 @AOECOIN @FactFascist @Bananenrijperij @KGrumpallo @stevethib @FrankChanged @DonWils13730132 @ElQuesoSabio @Creamih8 @Vulgar_wit @MATTP1949 @whyofweb @KnowYourGreen1 @su_js1 @Silence54994655 @TyotoRiffle @AlanBlackMD @ideapalooza @ADevotedYogi 1/8 Look at this pair of graphs:
sealevel.info/1895-1946_1957…

y-axis ticks are 0.2°C intervals, in both graphs.
x-axes are both 51 years wide.
Vertical offset between the graphs is about ≈0.35°C.

One graph is 1895–1946, the other is 1957–2008.
Can you guess which is which?

@JoeTheAtheist @insane_voice @PolAnimalAus @ClimatePoet @WadeKendall4 @AtomsksSanakan @TheDisproof @NikolovScience @tracemetalclean @CymaticWave @Gladfly1 @OscarsWild1 @PierreTherrie14 @horrdorr @GillesnFio @Tangomitteckel @Kenneth72712993 @DawnTJ90 @swcrisis @Tokyo_Tom @JsharkJill @EthonRaptor @KCTaz @foresaken1 @Jamz129 @Vieux_Rhone @dvibrationz @Schtickery @pinangodan @FrankWi74044551 @AOECOIN @FactFascist @Bananenrijperij @KGrumpallo @stevethib @FrankChanged @DonWils13730132 @ElQuesoSabio @Creamih8 @Vulgar_wit @MATTP1949 @whyofweb @KnowYourGreen1 @su_js1 @Silence54994655 @TyotoRiffle @AlanBlackMD @ideapalooza @ADevotedYogi 2/8 I'll bet you can't.

In the half-century covered by the 1895–1946 graph CO2 rose by only 15 ppmv (5.3%). In the half-century covered by the 1957–2008 graph CO2 rose by 70 ppmv (22.5%), i.e., a 4.2× greater CO2 forcing.

@JoeTheAtheist @insane_voice @PolAnimalAus @ClimatePoet @WadeKendall4 @AtomsksSanakan @TheDisproof @NikolovScience @tracemetalclean @CymaticWave @Gladfly1 @OscarsWild1 @PierreTherrie14 @horrdorr @GillesnFio @Tangomitteckel @Kenneth72712993 @DawnTJ90 @swcrisis @Tokyo_Tom @JsharkJill @EthonRaptor @KCTaz @foresaken1 @Jamz129 @Vieux_Rhone @dvibrationz @Schtickery @pinangodan @FrankWi74044551 @AOECOIN @FactFascist @Bananenrijperij @KGrumpallo @stevethib @FrankChanged @DonWils13730132 @ElQuesoSabio @Creamih8 @Vulgar_wit @MATTP1949 @whyofweb @KnowYourGreen1 @su_js1 @Silence54994655 @TyotoRiffle @AlanBlackMD @ideapalooza @ADevotedYogi 3/8 Rising CO2 level surely contributed to warming, but the similarity of the two graphs, despite the huge dissimilarity of the CO2-forcings, obviously doesn't support the case for CO2 being the “principal control knob” for climate.

@JoeTheAtheist @insane_voice @PolAnimalAus @ClimatePoet @WadeKendall4 @AtomsksSanakan @TheDisproof @NikolovScience @tracemetalclean @CymaticWave @Gladfly1 @OscarsWild1 @PierreTherrie14 @horrdorr @GillesnFio @Tangomitteckel @Kenneth72712993 @DawnTJ90 @swcrisis @Tokyo_Tom @JsharkJill @EthonRaptor @KCTaz @foresaken1 @Jamz129 @Vieux_Rhone @dvibrationz @Schtickery @pinangodan @FrankWi74044551 @AOECOIN @FactFascist @Bananenrijperij @KGrumpallo @stevethib @FrankChanged @DonWils13730132 @ElQuesoSabio @Creamih8 @Vulgar_wit @MATTP1949 @whyofweb @KnowYourGreen1 @su_js1 @Silence54994655 @TyotoRiffle @AlanBlackMD @ideapalooza @ADevotedYogi 4/8 The “control knob” wasn't methane, either, because in the half-century covered by the 1895–1946 graph methane (CH4) rose by 0.25 ppmv (29%), and in the half-century covered by the 1957–2008 graph it rose by 0.57 ppmv (47%).

Here's a good article:
wattsupwiththat.com/2018/04/20/whe…

@JoeTheAtheist @insane_voice @PolAnimalAus @ClimatePoet @WadeKendall4 @AtomsksSanakan @TheDisproof @NikolovScience @tracemetalclean @CymaticWave @Gladfly1 @OscarsWild1 @PierreTherrie14 @horrdorr @GillesnFio @Tangomitteckel @Kenneth72712993 @DawnTJ90 @swcrisis @Tokyo_Tom @JsharkJill @EthonRaptor @KCTaz @foresaken1 @Jamz129 @Vieux_Rhone @dvibrationz @Schtickery @pinangodan @FrankWi74044551 @AOECOIN @FactFascist @Bananenrijperij @KGrumpallo @stevethib @FrankChanged @DonWils13730132 @ElQuesoSabio @Creamih8 @Vulgar_wit @MATTP1949 @whyofweb @KnowYourGreen1 @su_js1 @Silence54994655 @TyotoRiffle @AlanBlackMD @ideapalooza @ADevotedYogi 5/8 You can easily reproduce these two graphs (very closely) at any web site which can produce graphs of HADCRUT3 temperatures, e.g., WoodForTrees.org:

woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut3v…

@JoeTheAtheist @insane_voice @PolAnimalAus @ClimatePoet @WadeKendall4 @AtomsksSanakan @TheDisproof @NikolovScience @tracemetalclean @CymaticWave @Gladfly1 @OscarsWild1 @PierreTherrie14 @horrdorr @GillesnFio @Tangomitteckel @Kenneth72712993 @DawnTJ90 @swcrisis @Tokyo_Tom @JsharkJill @EthonRaptor @KCTaz @foresaken1 @Jamz129 @Vieux_Rhone @dvibrationz @Schtickery @pinangodan @FrankWi74044551 @AOECOIN @FactFascist @Bananenrijperij @KGrumpallo @stevethib @FrankChanged @DonWils13730132 @ElQuesoSabio @Creamih8 @Vulgar_wit @MATTP1949 @whyofweb @KnowYourGreen1 @su_js1 @Silence54994655 @TyotoRiffle @AlanBlackMD @ideapalooza @ADevotedYogi 6/8 It doesn't “work as well” with other temperature indexes:

HADCRUT4 shows less 1895-1946 warming.

BEST shows more more 1957-2008 warming.

GISTEMP does both. (When climate alarmists show only GISTEMP to "prove" their points, the're cherry-picking.)

@JoeTheAtheist @insane_voice @PolAnimalAus @ClimatePoet @WadeKendall4 @AtomsksSanakan @TheDisproof @NikolovScience @tracemetalclean @CymaticWave @Gladfly1 @OscarsWild1 @PierreTherrie14 @horrdorr @GillesnFio @Tangomitteckel @Kenneth72712993 @DawnTJ90 @swcrisis @Tokyo_Tom @JsharkJill @EthonRaptor @KCTaz @foresaken1 @Jamz129 @Vieux_Rhone @dvibrationz @Schtickery @pinangodan @FrankWi74044551 @AOECOIN @FactFascist @Bananenrijperij @KGrumpallo @stevethib @FrankChanged @DonWils13730132 @ElQuesoSabio @Creamih8 @Vulgar_wit @MATTP1949 @whyofweb @KnowYourGreen1 @su_js1 @Silence54994655 @TyotoRiffle @AlanBlackMD @ideapalooza @ADevotedYogi 7/8 The differences between the various temperature indexes prove we really don't know the global temperature record well.
In fact, the uncertainty is even worse than you'd guess, because those indices are all based on (mostly) the same measurement data, which has many problems.

@JoeTheAtheist @insane_voice @PolAnimalAus @ClimatePoet @WadeKendall4 @AtomsksSanakan @TheDisproof @NikolovScience @tracemetalclean @CymaticWave @Gladfly1 @OscarsWild1 @PierreTherrie14 @horrdorr @GillesnFio @Tangomitteckel @Kenneth72712993 @DawnTJ90 @swcrisis @Tokyo_Tom @JsharkJill @EthonRaptor @KCTaz @foresaken1 @Jamz129 @Vieux_Rhone @dvibrationz @Schtickery @pinangodan @FrankWi74044551 @AOECOIN @FactFascist @Bananenrijperij @KGrumpallo @stevethib @FrankChanged @DonWils13730132 @ElQuesoSabio @Creamih8 @Vulgar_wit @MATTP1949 @whyofweb @KnowYourGreen1 @su_js1 @Silence54994655 @TyotoRiffle @AlanBlackMD @ideapalooza @ADevotedYogi 8/8 Earth's avg temperature is remarkably stable, & the changes are minute: mere fractions of a degree, temperature changes which are dwarfed by diurnal & seasonal changes. There's no credible evidence that the tiny anthropogenic changes in temperature are significantly harmful.