Thread by @themultibeast

.@SuzanneVenker Love your podcast, but I’d like to make a suggestion. You start your podcasts with “Where men and women are equal in value, but wildly different by nature.“

This bumps me every time because it's not true, and it's actually a harmful idea (to men). Hear me out...

Women are more valuable than men, inherently, and men need to understand this in order to be better men

Men not understanding this fact is part of what holds them back from taking the necessary action to BUILD their own value, and fully occupy the masculine pole

I know your focus is on women, but do men a solid here, and stop saying this

If we are equal in anything, it is in DIGNITY, not value

Take this example...

Imagine you are the alpha leader of a tribe of 100 early hominids, 50 men, 50 women..

Among the 50 women, 15 are too old to breed, another 15 are too young. Among the men, about 35 are able to breed

If your tribe is to survive (the elements and conflicts w/ other tribes) NOTHING can happen to those 15 fertile women. The men, in comparison, are totally expendable

If you were a warring tribe, strategizing on how to conquer this other tribe, your target would be those 15 women - stealing them or killing them

Literally who they mate with determines the success of the entire tribe

When you think about it like that, it seems silly to even leave their mating choice up to them

This is the origin of the arranged marriage

Ss you can see, these women are INHERENTLY valuable. Their eggs make them more valuable than men.

It's actually laughable how incongruous the value comparison is when this is understood. As they say: EGGS ARE EXPENSIVE, SPERM IS CHEAP.

This is why men sign up for Selective Service, and women don't
This is why how a woman "feels" is a priority for anyone but her

Who she mates with matters for ALL of us

This is why "All jobs exist so the stay at home mom job can exist" - CS Lewis

A man, on the other hand, is not inherently valuable...

His value comes from his social standing, physical strength, ability to provide safety (physical, financial and emotional)

All of these "abilities" are actively worked for (and coached by fathers) over a childhood, adolescence, and early adulthood

"Women protect their value, men create their value"

If you think men and women are equal in value, I'd ask you to look at any 22 year old woman, vs a 22 year old man

If she's cute, people will bend over backwards to support her ..

A 22 year old man, with no money, no social standing, no career... literally does not exist. The truth is, men like this have to actively work not to slip into oblivion

Most women can't imagine how jarring it is for all of society to simply STOP caring about them overnight

But learning that you are NOT valuable is actually a critical step in order to BECOME valuable

Men need to know what they already know deep down, that no one cares about them. The cavalry ain't coming. And it's certainly not coming in the form of a woman.

There is no "unconditional" for us. We need to work for all of it.

Again, much of what you talk about for women is "making room" for their men to lead. Good for you. But do us men a solid and don't perpetuate the belief in equal value. ..

So I would suggest you change it to "Where men and women are equal in dignity, but wildly different by nature"

Thanks