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incidentally, the solutions that aren't "crazy" are ones that acknowledge the origins, scale, and urgency of the problem, which is to say exactly the solutions that Shapiro et al want to squelch by calling them "extreme."
Shapiro pretending that he's acknowledging the problem while refusing to consider any changes that could mitigate it is, in fact, "posturing," while the activists he yells at for "screaming" are the only ones offering *realistic* solutions.
if your only engagement with the issue of climate is to chide the people who actually are engaged with it for being too "crazy," you're willfully accelerating the catastrophe.
(and this applies to "centrist" pundits and "moderate" politicians as much as it does smug reactionaries who run lucrative racist-facebook-propaganda mills)
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