Thread by @seunggibae

#Mouse Theory

-a longggg thread

1. Idk if they're making it obvious or they're just confusing us but the way those lines show their faces at the same time. 👀It looks like the "normal person" line is referring to bareum and "predator like me" is referring to yohan.

2. Yohan and Jaehoon are the same person. His surname is same as ji seun's. It was also mentioned that Jae Hoon's dream is to become a doctor. Yohan is also the youngest doctor to past the state examination & it was stated here that he's a genius. Jae Hoon is a genius too.

2.1 "What happened to him as a child is haunting him for the rest of his life" it's really possible that he's jae hoon.

2.2 Ji Eun is the one who' remarried, it's not the other pregnant lady because she said she really loves her died husband so it's impossible. +++ the store that the stepfather's referring to is the flower store.

2.3 It is really her. Ji Eun is the lady on the first ep, choking jae hoon. As you can see, they have the same teeth.

2.4 Seo Joon is talking with Yohan. Are they just doing this for us to conclude that yohan is really the head hunter's son? But their stares gave me the same vibe or whatevah

2.5 Bareum is the other pregnant lady's son. She wants to prove that Dr.Lee is wrong. Maybe she didn't talk about psychopaths while raising bareum, she treated him like other normal kids that's why he grew up as a fine and kind man.

2.6 The Killer. Every killings, the fingers of the corpse are always pointing at something and that's the church or the cross. Why? Because the killer hates it. and Jae Hoon is the first person who came into my mind. Remember? "The Almighty never answered my prayer."

2.7 Another possible proof that adult Jae Hoon is the killer

2.8 The Killer have a car. Which means he's rich or whatevah

2.9 Moo Chi is talking abt the killer that he's an expert with the knife, he studied anatomy because he knows well where to stab and all and then this guy exactly showed up. Isn't it too obvious? But whatever, reason to think that Yohan is the killer.

WTF DON'T MIND MY NUMBERING 🤡

3. SO IF YOHAN IS REALLY THE KILLER, THEN THEIR ENCOUNTER BEGINS + IT WAS MENTIONED ON THE PLOT THAT BAREUM'S LIFE WILL CHANGE WHILE INVESTIGATING THE PSYCHOPATH MURDER CASE. MAYBE THE ENCOUNTER & ALL WILL TRIGGER HIS PSYCHOPATH GENES & HE'LL REALIZE THAT HE'S ALSO A PSYCHOPATH🤯

#Mouse Theory #2 if JBR is the killer & Head Hunter's son

Okay let's set aside yohan and head hunter's wife having the same surnames first. Maybe they intentionally did that for us to conclude he's hh's son and all. And it kinda feel weird to see father & son already having confrontation right?

1. I did some research and saw that psychopaths don't experience fear like the rest of us.

2. After reading that, I remember this scene. Knowing that something might happen to him because of that bird.

brb gonna watch penthouse first 😆

gonna continue my 2nd theory. Don't read this is this is confusing you more. We need more episodes to conclude which is which but yeah this is only my theory & i'm tweeting this for me to go back on this thread and see if some of these are right or wrong. 😊

3. Maybe jbr is deceiving us. Entwining truth and lie so well that it's difficult for many to distinguish fact from fiction. Making it hard for us to distinguish who is who, which is which.

4. Also saw this on google. Kinda like bareum right?

5. "They have a reduced startle response." But bareum is so startled when he saw his friend's body during the magic show. Maybe he's not a psychopath? (lol) or maybe all his actions are just an act or whatevah

6. "Psychopaths react far less intensely in such fear evoking situations. This can be a useful trait if u r a soldier, surgeon, etc." Did u noticed his exaggerated innocence or it's just normal + why is he so startled on the show while he's so calm when a car almost hit him lmao.

7. There's a big chance that the lines refer to the opposite person. Or the message/ meaning of the lines are the other way around.

8. Did this 2AM in the morning & deleted it bcos i did some mistakes on the first so here we go

This is my second theory so don't be confused with this and the first one.

So possible reasons why jae hoon is not yohan.
-Jaehoon's family is murdered, so who'll support him to achieve/pursue his dream to become a doctor? The financial expenses and everything

-Maybe yohan is the other lady's son. The reason why he became a neurologist I think, is because maybe he also wants to know more abt psychopaths. As you can see on this picture, the photos on the wall is all about brains, & other parts of psychopath's brain is somehow diff.

The killer have a car right? Jbr is a police officer, maybe he also have his own car.

the killer and jbr's back view.

killer and jbr's feet

There's still a side of jbr that isn't revealed yet & i'm sure that side of him is something like this.

SO IF JBR IS HH'S SON, I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHY HH AND YOHAN HAD A CONVERSATION LIKE THAT, MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON AND THEY'RE REALLY MAKING US THINK THAT YOHAN IS HH'S SON. + DIDN'T YOU NOTICE HH AND JBR'S LOVE FOR ANIMALS LOL. LET'S SEE ON THE NEXT EPISODES

END SKSKSKS BTW I WILL BE POSTING ALL MY THEORIES HERE FOR THE NEXT EPISODES UNTIL THE END OF THE DRAMA

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1. Yohan is not the real murderer. The real murderer have patterns on his killings. The fingers, cross, church but we didn't saw that on yohan's killings. He threw daniel's body on the river &killed halmeoni but his way ofkilling is way different from the other cases.

2. Pictures on the walls are different. The real murderer's wall there are only pictures of the victims but on yohan's wall, there are also notes abt the victims. Or maybe he added those notes, these are from diff episodes anyway.

3. But wait, here's another clue. The real murderer's room have sofa and tv right? But as we can see, yohan's secret room doesn't have those. 👀

4. Maybe he killed Daniel for some reasons. And he killed halmeoni because if she'll report him, they'll use that picture wall against him. 💀

5. I rlly don't believe that he's hh's son/jaehoon. Like hello, she choked him & wanted him dead so why would she still live with him right? Idk what's going on but I'm not convinced. + Where is she when the incident with jaehoon & stepfather happened, she's nowhere to be found.

5.1 When jaehoon left the police station after the interview, his mom is not there either. Maybe jieun left him all alone because she even doesn't want jaehoon to live right?
Maybe she just adopted yohan or helped yohan and treated him as her son 👀

5.2 There are only two possible reasons why her hands are shaking. First, she lied when she said that her son grew well, she failed to raise her son normally. Second, what she said that her son grew up well was true, but it's not her real son.

5.3 Did you noticed how yohan stares at jbr, it's like yohan knows him for a long time.

5.4 Maybe because jieun told him abt jaehoon. Then yohan will find the adult jaehoon for jieun. And jaehoon is jbr ☺️ his stares are really telling me that yohan know that jbr is the one he's looking for or i'm just overthinking lmao

5.5 That explains this. After knowing the story of young jaehoon, maybe he's suspecting that the adult jaehoon is also the one behind these killings. So maybe he's investigating, there are notes on every victim's picture.

5.6 Maybe this is connected too. Hong Joo is a reporter, which means more information.

Or maybe, he made her his girlfriend to have more information abt the investigation of the cases if yohan is the accomplice of the serial killer for them to be aware or whatevah.

6. But i'm sure that yohan is not the serial killer. Maybe he's an accomplice. Or he's just really investigating these cases to find jieun's son bcos they're saying that maybe ,hh's son is the culprit.

7. Maybe yohan is just a sociopath, not a psychopath. (?)
Remember how scared and anxious he was.

lol i'm just overthinking. Btw I'm still convinced that jbr is jaehoon and he's the culprit...

8. The way they zoomed his eyes first before his reactions. It feels like he's thinking what to react first or something ksksksks they did it two times but they also did it to yohan

9. The prey became the predator. We all know that mouse is being eaten by the snake but this drama have turned the tables. We didn't expect it coming. And that mouse is like jbr, he looks like a prey on the outside but a real predator on the inside. 👀

10. Oooff 👀

11. His reactionnn. Is it because that's not his real mother and he's not the baby on the picture lol my mind is going crazy

12. "parents" so he's referring to his mother and father. But if the other pregnant lady is the lady with him on the picture, then what he said is not compatible with the past happenings because the pregnant lady's husband died even before giving birth and that was years ago hmm

13. Okay so I already expected that he is hiding something but i didn't expect that they'll reveal it this early. What if they showed it to us this early for us to conclude that they're just confusing us "again". But I'll still stand by my prediction that he's the serial killer

14. R u also wondering why he's always wearing checkered clothes. Maybe because if you'll look at those patterns symbolizes the cross or something OR because his killings have patterns 💀

15. Jaehoon/jbr is right handed, we saw that when he's drawing. BUT when he pulled the knife from his stepfather's chest, he used his left. What if he uses his left for killing for him not to get caught bcos just like on this part, they can say if the killer is left/right handed.

16. New hint that he's not hh's son. Now I know why he's reacting like that when they're mentioning hsj, hsj's son bcos he don't want to be called like that. Idk but this gave me the 'i don't wanna be called like that bcos i'm not even his son' vibes + "hsj's grandchild?" thing

17. Why did this happen at the same time skskskwoshs. When moo chi said those lines, it's exactly when he put his hands on jbr's shoulders sksksks +++ they zoom that part but yeah i'm so lazy to watch it again to take a screenshot. 🤡

After watching ep 4 again, i have corrections on this part skwkskana

18. Bareum is the one who killed halmeoni 💀 take a look on the length of the killers coat

19. It's obvious that yohan's jacket is not that long and he's wearing the same clothes while following halmeoni right? Then here's bareum wearing a coat with the same length as the killer's coat.

20. From the looks of it, yohan's reaction & movement as soon as he was shown, yohan just arrived on the scene and saw bareum & the dead halmeoni. Watch this part again and observe everything closely, i'm 101% sure of this one

21. So he left the place, come back, reacted like he's surprised & everything omg he's really a psychopath. Yohan arrived then they started playing catch lmao

22. I'M SO CURIOUS WHY HE DIDN'T REPORT YOHAN AFTER HE REGAINED CONSCIOUSNESS. NOW I GET IT, HE DIDN'T REPORT HIM BCOS HE'S THE ONE WHO MURDERED HALMEONI 🤸‍♀️

23. AND THIS IS THE REASON WHY HE RUSHED OUT. I REALLY THOUGHT HE'LL SAVE HER BCOS OF THEIR RELATIONSHIP LOL SO HE RUSHED OUT TO GET RID OF HER AND THE PHOTO

24. LOOK AT HIM TRYIN' TO MISLEAD THEM 💀 ACTUALLY NOT TOTALLY MISLEADING THEM, HE'S SAYING THE TRUTH,,BUT THEY WOULDN'T KNOW THAT IT WAS HIM OFC HE USES HIS RIGHT HAND WHEN HE'S WRITING ,, THEY DON'T KNOW THAT HE CAN ALSO USE HIS LEFT

25. HE EVEN PAYED FOR HALMEONI'S FUNERAL AND WAS THERE FOR BONG YI WTF

26. NOW I UNDERSTAND THIS SCENE. COME TO THINK OF IT, WHY WOULD HE INJECT SOMETHING THAT'LL KILL BAREUM IF HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO HALMEONI RIGHT? + I READ FROM THE REPLIES HERE THAT BAREUM DIDN'T SAW HIS FACE SO WHAT'S THE REASON?

27. BCOS HE SAW THAT JBR KILLED HALMEONI, AND MAYBE REALIZED THAT JBR IS THE SERIAL KILLER BCOS WHY WOULD JBR BURN THAT PHOTO IF THAT PHOTO HAD NOHING TO DO WITH HIM RIGHT?

28. I THOUGHT HIS EMOTION IS ODD HERE BUT NOW IT MAKES SENSE. MAYBE HE FELT SAD FOR BONG YI WHILE HEARING THOSE WORDS COMING FROM HER MOUTH ABT HER GRANDMA AND EVERYTHING.

29. SO THERE ARE TWO PSYCHOPATHS AND MURDERER.
ONE IS RUNNING AWAY FROM BEING A PSYCHOPATH & KILLS THOSE BAD PPL WHILE THE OTHER CHOSE TO STAY & IS A SERIAL KILLER. 👀

30. THE PSYCHOPATH WHO'S RUNNING AWAY FROM BEING ONE AND KILLS BAD PPL IS YOHAN. WHY? BCOS OF WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN HIM AND JBR. HE TRIED TO KILL HIM AFTER HE SAW WHAT HAPPENED TO HALMEONI THAT'S AN ENOUGH REASON FOR ME.

31. THE PSYCHOPATH WHO'S ALSO A SERIAL KILLER IS JBR. I'M REALLY CONVINCED THAT HE'S THAT PERSON. I KNOW THAT IF IT'S REALLY JBR, WHY DID THEY REVEALED IT THIS EARLY? MAYBE TO CONFUSE US MORE 🤸‍♀️

BUT YEAH THIS IS JUST MY THEORY OKAY? DON'T TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY LMAO BEFORE U THROW HATE ON THIS THREAD, REMEMBER THAT THIS IS JUST MY THEORY. AND FOR THOSE WHO APPRECIATE MY THIS & ALWAYS WANTING TO HEAR MORE THANK U ILY I'LL DO MY BEST TO GIVE YOU MOREE MOUSE CONTENTS

i'm receiving questions and tags abt mouse and ur asking for my opinion so yeah just drop them here!! Sorry if I didn't answer your questions, it's so hard to notice every questions bcos my notifs are always flooded. I'll make sure to answer them here! <33
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Another correction abt dr.daniel

32. THIS IS BAREUM RIGHT? RIGHT? OMG WAIT THIS IS REALLY HIM CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG AAAA WTF

33. Yohan's hoodie is the evidence. He's not the one who killed daniel but he's the one who threw daniel's body. I think he did that because when he arrived, he saw daniel's body.

34. I THINK HE DID THAT BECAUSE IF THE POLICE WILL SEE DANIEL'S BODY, THEY WILL CHECK EVERYTHING, PHONE CALLS, ETC. AND HE CONTACTED YOHAN THAT DAY SO HE THREW HIM ON THE WATER. ++ DO U REMEMBER WHEN HE SAID HE'S SCARED? MAYBE THIS IS THE REASON WHY

35. How does jbr knew abt yohan & dr. Daniel's meet up? Remember their encounter here. I think he knows daniel, ofc he knew it was daniel, he's famous bcos of that psychopath thing. Maybe he stop & overheard daniel ask abt yohan and started stalking daniel out of curiosity 👀

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Still not convinced that jbr is innocent. As I said, the sk is genius, so he suggested this because it was all part of his plan 🤸‍♀️

This is what i'm saying. How would the sk know their plan right? + Who suggested this whole thing?

They have their plan, to film a fake video. But someone sent something and they thought it was their film but bareum said that it's not. Which made them believe that it's the real han kook 💀 +++ the sk did this for their 'fake plan' to mess up and get caught by the public

Then two reporter came out and told abt the fake film to the public which confirms that the kid on the video is not han kook. It was the child actor they hired. So who took the video, sent it to moo chi and made it look like it's the real han kook? Jbr lmao 🤡🤸‍♀️

SORRY BUT NO ONE CAN CHANGE MY MIND. JBR IS THE SK. NOW, JBR HAVE INJURY, SO HOW CAN HE STAND THERE AND SK'S FEET HAVE NO INJURIES AT ALL.

NOW LOOK AT THESE PICTURES. JBR, DID U FORGET WHICH FOOT IS INJURED? LMAO U CAN FOOL ANYONE BUT U CAN'T FOOL ME CHAR 🤸‍♀️

THIS. BONG YI HAD AN ENCOUNTER WITH THE SK. AND I THINK SHE'S REALLY TALKING TO YOHAN. NOW, WHY WOULD SHE SHARE THIS INFO TO YOHAN WHEN THEY'RE NOT EVEN CLOSE INSTEAD OF TELLING THIS TO BAREUM 👀

DID SHE TELL THIS TO YOHAN BECAUSE SHE HEARD THAT HALMEONI'S DNA WAS FOUND ON HIS HOUSE, AND THE MESSAGE BEHIND THAT I CAUGHT HIM WAS " I KNOW IT WAS YOU" (if yohan is really the killer) OR SHE'S TELLING THIS TO HELP YOHAN, AND BE YOHAN'S ALIBI IF THEY'RE GONNA SUSPECT YOHAN

The victims doesn't have the following sins. Lust, gluttony, pride, sloth, greed and wrath. That leaves envy. Maybe he'll kill yohan next not because yohan doesn't have that, but because he envy yohan. Why?

He'll have an encounter with his mother ( if it's really his mother) and ofc he'll remember his mother's face. So he started stalking her and found out abt yohan. He'll be jealous because his mom took good care of yohan but she wanted him dead when he's a kid...

i read something about wiretap on bareum's house. Remember, yohan was there when they go out to find information abt the victims? Maybe that's why he knew abt their plan or something

but what's his motive? To ruin their fake plan? This is jbr's plan after all. Maybe he's aware that jbr's planning something other than making a fake video because yohan's a witness (if jbr killed halmeoni) that jbr is the sk 👀

In short, yohan is investigating on his own to ruin the future plans of sk. I think he's that kind of psychopath. That's why he's stalking jbr, observing everything. Psychopath to psychopath.

And I think he's doing this because he's tired to hear or to be called a psychopath. We saw a little bit of his backstory, the bullies are calling him a Psychopath, and hh's son. It has negative impact on him bcos they think that all psychopaths are like hh.

does this even makes sense lmao 🤸‍♀️

GONNA POST UPDATE THEORIES WITH THE THINGS I'M SURE OF EVEN WITHOUT SUBTITLE

"You knew that your son is a killer" yes yohan said something like this to ji eun but I don't think he's referring to himself. He's referring to bareum🤸
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Then he went to bareum's house. Looking for bareum.
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He's not the sk. Why would a serial killer wants to get himself caught. Like he would've run when bong yi and moo chi arrived. But he continue to hit bareum, wanted him dead because he knows that jbr is the serial killer. + He's really angry here 💀
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Jbr let out a small sarcastic laugh when yohan was shot. Like he's laughing because they're suspecting the wrong person, that they took the bait, that his plan is successful lmao
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These are all just bareum's photos so u can't say that yohan's the sk. And yes, he have pictures of the victims back then but there were also notes, like he's investigating. Now why is he stalking jbr? Simple, because jbr is the serial killer 🤸‍♀️

After he saw those photos, he rushed to his house, save bong your but he stayed and chose to face yohan. This was his plan lmao because he knew that bong yi will look for help then they'll see yohan hitting him, which will make them conclude that he's really the sk 🤡

we saw a bird killer bareum. He killed that bird like it was nothing just like jaehoon. I told u, he started since the beginning, u just didn't noticed it bcos of his good acting. Like he's already there even before, u just didn't noticed it because he was just quiet.
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in short, bareum is the sk. It will be easy if it's yohan like okay they now know that yohan is the serial killer, they have evidences against him so they can just arrest him anytime, the end. No babe. I'm gonna stick to bareum 🤸‍♀️

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The intro. All of the into is like describing the whole episode. Parallels, shattered memories? And I think it's also jbr's new personality, because his personality here is like the opposite of his personality before

THIS. EVEN HER CAN'T BELIEVE THAT YOHAN DID THAT TO BAREUM, WHY? BECAUSE MAYBE HE'S REALLY NOT THAT KIND OF PERSON AND I DON'T THINK HE'S THE CULPRIT. THE POLICE MISSED THE REAL CULPRIT HERE LOL
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When people is having an increase on IP, they usually perform a CRANIECTOMY, it is a surgery done to remove a part of your skull to relieve pressure in that area where your brain swells. So I think the transplant didn't happen since he only had 3 surgeries.
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so he didn't change because of transplant thing. All his actions, his personality and everything we saw abt him on the previous eps is just an act. This memory loss is what's going to get him caught cos he's already acting out of character.
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The excitement on his face when they're discussing the case. The genius side of him. Every change that we saw. That's his true colors. He lost his memory so he's not aware that he need to hide he's real personality. He hid all of that before bc he's trying to blend in the society

Parallels. I think this happened again just like before because we're like starting again with this new bareum who can't hide his ass anymore

Parallels. The victim smiled when she saw the man which means she knows her or something. And we all know that jbr became famous because of his fight with the "serial killer" 🥰

But then again i'm suspecting a new person 🤸‍♀️ The man have like bangs and ring on his left hand which is kinda the same with this man lmao who knows, mouse loves surprising us. This means we are having more than one killer here
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Parallels. The code on the cassette tape is the same as the code on the victim's hand before.

I think there are experimentations before and hong ju knows something abt this. Is this the reason why the victims before were headless? To study their brain or something or they are kidnapping them for this experimentation?

2 possibilities.
-The knot killer did his first murder when he was a child that, his victim back then was a child also & he is back now.
-The knot killer before was an adult but he taught the knot to the child and made the child do it & grew up as a knot killer too.

i don't think bong yi killed yohan, maybe she attempted but she didn't killed him. It's hong ju, after what she heard that he's the sk, and i think these lines are also one of her reasons that's why she killed him...
"You won't receive salvation"

Parallels. The difference here is the way each other's reflection overlap each other's faces. On yohan's hh's reflection is didn't fall exactly on his face while it perfectly falls on jbr's face and vice versa. I think it is because they are father and son lol

Parallels. Reporters and people going crazy because of psychopath Dr. Han Seojun and reporters and people going crazy again because of Hero Police Officer Jung Ba Reum

This jerk here lied to moo chi that he'll change and I think we're gonna have another kind of murderer.

This. Those eyes looks like jbr's eyes. Something happened between him and hong ju before, maybe this happened between the time skip because her hair is still long here.

the transplant didn't happen so i'm against the 'maybe yohan's memory is mixed with his memory ' Maybe it's because his memories with bong yi is coming back but the girl in his memory is blur or something so she thought that's hong ju + bong yi didn't appear yet

jbr lost his memory. They told him that he's an upright and kind man that didn't cause any troubles so he's acting like one but there were times where he can't hide his true color.

maybe we will not see a killer jbr as of now because of his conditions since he still don't know that side of him. We're gonna see different killings as of now and maybe flashbacks

and i think chi kook will wake up soon too. If the sk won't try to kill him again, maybe he'll expose who is the killer.

so if my theory is right abt having different killers, then we're gonna have three.

-psychopath killer
-knot killer
-the jerk who just got released

if this is the case, this drama is crazy. this is mad

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