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@DK25769559 @BrianTu85458331 @chimera414 @BrknMan @sueytonius @TheDisproof @ancistroneura @Stephen90045069 @IngersolRobert @VictorinMarie @RuleByLogic @SharkSandwhich @tradewith60 @Tokyo_Tom @Ceist8 @ClimatePatriot @smarzeli @MaryLal82360537 @KCTaz @nogo_1965 @eloarefab @BailFund_Brawl @alshalloway @joetheatheistp @insane_voice @BradPKeyes @Fauntleroy1934 @joedieseldodge @BadgersNo @fknsavages27 @SimonPearson961 @JoeTheAtheist @CMorrisonEsq @maya_phd @CymaticWave @Schtickery @ClimateDepot @stevenmosher @Willard1951 @jc_Craze @DanCady @IPCC_CH 1/10. @BrianTu85458331 wrote, "around half of the gas we add is absorbed by flora and soils - and the oceans. The other half stays up there."

That's a common but imprecise description, Brian.

@DK25769559 @BrianTu85458331 @chimera414 @BrknMan @sueytonius @TheDisproof @ancistroneura @Stephen90045069 @IngersolRobert @VictorinMarie @RuleByLogic @SharkSandwhich @tradewith60 @Tokyo_Tom @Ceist8 @ClimatePatriot @smarzeli @MaryLal82360537 @KCTaz @nogo_1965 @eloarefab @BailFund_Brawl @alshalloway @joetheatheistp @insane_voice @BradPKeyes @Fauntleroy1934 @joedieseldodge @BadgersNo @fknsavages27 @SimonPearson961 @JoeTheAtheist @CMorrisonEsq @maya_phd @CymaticWave @Schtickery @ClimateDepot @stevenmosher @Willard1951 @jc_Craze @DanCady @IPCC_CH 2/10. The current natural CO2 removal rate happens to be about half our current CO2 emission rate, but the rate of removal of CO2 by terrestrial greening and the oceans is governed mainly by atmospheric CO2 level, and NOT at all by emission rates.

@DK25769559 @BrianTu85458331 @chimera414 @BrknMan @sueytonius @TheDisproof @ancistroneura @Stephen90045069 @IngersolRobert @VictorinMarie @RuleByLogic @SharkSandwhich @tradewith60 @Tokyo_Tom @Ceist8 @ClimatePatriot @smarzeli @MaryLal82360537 @KCTaz @nogo_1965 @eloarefab @BailFund_Brawl @alshalloway @joetheatheistp @insane_voice @BradPKeyes @Fauntleroy1934 @joedieseldodge @BadgersNo @fknsavages27 @SimonPearson961 @JoeTheAtheist @CMorrisonEsq @maya_phd @CymaticWave @Schtickery @ClimateDepot @stevenmosher @Willard1951 @jc_Craze @DanCady @IPCC_CH 3/10. So all that "net zero" talk is 100% pure, refined, peer-reviewed, crackpot, nonsense.

If emissions were halved, CO2 levels would plateau, and if emissions were cut by >½ levels would be falling.

@DK25769559 @BrianTu85458331 @chimera414 @BrknMan @sueytonius @TheDisproof @ancistroneura @Stephen90045069 @IngersolRobert @VictorinMarie @RuleByLogic @SharkSandwhich @tradewith60 @Tokyo_Tom @Ceist8 @ClimatePatriot @smarzeli @MaryLal82360537 @KCTaz @nogo_1965 @eloarefab @BailFund_Brawl @alshalloway @joetheatheistp @insane_voice @BradPKeyes @Fauntleroy1934 @joedieseldodge @BadgersNo @fknsavages27 @SimonPearson961 @JoeTheAtheist @CMorrisonEsq @maya_phd @CymaticWave @Schtickery @ClimateDepot @stevenmosher @Willard1951 @jc_Craze @DanCady @IPCC_CH 4/10. @BrianTu85458331 wrote, "So CO2 will continue to rise until we halve our output at least."

That's incorrect. Even if CO2 emissions were merely stabilized, and never cut, CO2 level would plateau.

@DK25769559 @BrianTu85458331 @chimera414 @BrknMan @sueytonius @TheDisproof @ancistroneura @Stephen90045069 @IngersolRobert @VictorinMarie @RuleByLogic @SharkSandwhich @tradewith60 @Tokyo_Tom @Ceist8 @ClimatePatriot @smarzeli @MaryLal82360537 @KCTaz @nogo_1965 @eloarefab @BailFund_Brawl @alshalloway @joetheatheistp @insane_voice @BradPKeyes @Fauntleroy1934 @joedieseldodge @BadgersNo @fknsavages27 @SimonPearson961 @JoeTheAtheist @CMorrisonEsq @maya_phd @CymaticWave @Schtickery @ClimateDepot @stevenmosher @Willard1951 @jc_Craze @DanCady @IPCC_CH 5/10. If emissions plateau, atmos. level will asymptotically approach plateau, too. The level is a function of emission rate, estimated using Spencer's empirical formula, for net CO2 removal rate as a function of atmospheric CO2 level:

removalrate = (co2level – 295.1) × 0.0233

@DK25769559 @BrianTu85458331 @chimera414 @BrknMan @sueytonius @TheDisproof @ancistroneura @Stephen90045069 @IngersolRobert @VictorinMarie @RuleByLogic @SharkSandwhich @tradewith60 @Tokyo_Tom @Ceist8 @ClimatePatriot @smarzeli @MaryLal82360537 @KCTaz @nogo_1965 @eloarefab @BailFund_Brawl @alshalloway @joetheatheistp @insane_voice @BradPKeyes @Fauntleroy1934 @joedieseldodge @BadgersNo @fknsavages27 @SimonPearson961 @JoeTheAtheist @CMorrisonEsq @maya_phd @CymaticWave @Schtickery @ClimateDepot @stevenmosher @Willard1951 @jc_Craze @DanCady @IPCC_CH 6/10. The "plateau CO2 level" is the level at which the removal rate equals the emission rate, so:

emissionrate = (co2level – 295.1) × 0.0233
emissionrate / 0.0233 = (co2level – 295.1)
co2level = (emissionrate / 0.0233) + 295.1

@DK25769559 @BrianTu85458331 @chimera414 @BrknMan @sueytonius @TheDisproof @ancistroneura @Stephen90045069 @IngersolRobert @VictorinMarie @RuleByLogic @SharkSandwhich @tradewith60 @Tokyo_Tom @Ceist8 @ClimatePatriot @smarzeli @MaryLal82360537 @KCTaz @nogo_1965 @eloarefab @BailFund_Brawl @alshalloway @joetheatheistp @insane_voice @BradPKeyes @Fauntleroy1934 @joedieseldodge @BadgersNo @fknsavages27 @SimonPearson961 @JoeTheAtheist @CMorrisonEsq @maya_phd @CymaticWave @Schtickery @ClimateDepot @stevenmosher @Willard1951 @jc_Craze @DanCady @IPCC_CH 7/10. So, for example, if the net anthropogenic emission rate plateaus at 5 ppmv / year (approximately the current rate), then the CO2 level will plateau at approximately (5 / 0.0233) + 295.1 = 510 ppmv.

@DK25769559 @BrianTu85458331 @chimera414 @BrknMan @sueytonius @TheDisproof @ancistroneura @Stephen90045069 @IngersolRobert @VictorinMarie @RuleByLogic @SharkSandwhich @tradewith60 @Tokyo_Tom @Ceist8 @ClimatePatriot @smarzeli @MaryLal82360537 @KCTaz @nogo_1965 @eloarefab @BailFund_Brawl @alshalloway @joetheatheistp @insane_voice @BradPKeyes @Fauntleroy1934 @joedieseldodge @BadgersNo @fknsavages27 @SimonPearson961 @JoeTheAtheist @CMorrisonEsq @maya_phd @CymaticWave @Schtickery @ClimateDepot @stevenmosher @Willard1951 @jc_Craze @DanCady @IPCC_CH 8/10. Most climate activists believe and claim that atmospheric CO2 levels will continue to climb as long as we continue to emit CO2. That's just wrong.

@DK25769559 @BrianTu85458331 @chimera414 @BrknMan @sueytonius @TheDisproof @ancistroneura @Stephen90045069 @IngersolRobert @VictorinMarie @RuleByLogic @SharkSandwhich @tradewith60 @Tokyo_Tom @Ceist8 @ClimatePatriot @smarzeli @MaryLal82360537 @KCTaz @nogo_1965 @eloarefab @BailFund_Brawl @alshalloway @joetheatheistp @insane_voice @BradPKeyes @Fauntleroy1934 @joedieseldodge @BadgersNo @fknsavages27 @SimonPearson961 @JoeTheAtheist @CMorrisonEsq @maya_phd @CymaticWave @Schtickery @ClimateDepot @stevenmosher @Willard1951 @jc_Craze @DanCady @IPCC_CH 9/10. The same relation lets us calculate the sustained CO2 emission rate needed for CO2 concentration to approach a given target level. E.g., to reach 725 ppmv would require sustained emissions of at least:

(co2level – 295.1) × 0.0233 = (725 – 295.1) × 0.0233 = 10 ppmv/year

@DK25769559 @BrianTu85458331 @chimera414 @BrknMan @sueytonius @TheDisproof @ancistroneura @Stephen90045069 @IngersolRobert @VictorinMarie @RuleByLogic @SharkSandwhich @tradewith60 @Tokyo_Tom @Ceist8 @ClimatePatriot @smarzeli @MaryLal82360537 @KCTaz @nogo_1965 @eloarefab @BailFund_Brawl @alshalloway @joetheatheistp @insane_voice @BradPKeyes @Fauntleroy1934 @joedieseldodge @BadgersNo @fknsavages27 @SimonPearson961 @JoeTheAtheist @CMorrisonEsq @maya_phd @CymaticWave @Schtickery @ClimateDepot @stevenmosher @Willard1951 @jc_Craze @DanCady @IPCC_CH 10/10. That's approximately double the current emission rate.

Thus we can say with assurance that if anthropogenic CO2 emissions never double from their current rate, then atmospheric CO2 levels will never reach 725 ppmv.