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sealevel.info/climate_nasa_g…

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sealevel.info/learnmore.html

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wattsupwiththat.com/2018/09/24/gre…

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In other words, Greenland contributes ≈2.2 inches of sea-level rise (or 3 inches according to JPL) per…

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Or "decade"?

Nope. It's per "century."

Greenland meltwater contributes about two inches of global sea-level rise per CENTURY. 🤣

(Or 3 inches using JPL's estimate.)

At that rate it'll take a while to realize @NatGeo's vision:

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sealevel.info/Rising_Seas_St…

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The "climate emergency" scam won't last anywhere near that long. 🤣