@Jaisans @glinch72 @AristotleMrs @JohnDublin10 @TWTThisIsNow @ammocrypta @FChecker76 @Willard1951 @geoguy_usa104 @Stephen90045069 @NonlinearDarren @Climatehope2 @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @BrknMan @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @dan613 @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado @IngersolRobert @CarrudoDon @DK25769559 1/16》Do you neither of you understand that the WoodForTrees "offset" does not affect the trend?
@Jaisans @glinch72 @AristotleMrs @JohnDublin10 @TWTThisIsNow @ammocrypta @FChecker76 @Willard1951 @geoguy_usa104 @Stephen90045069 @NonlinearDarren @Climatehope2 @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @BrknMan @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @dan613 @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado @IngersolRobert @CarrudoDon @DK25769559 2/16》Offsetting the GISTemp record relative to HadCRUT+UAH simply provides a bit of space between the traces, so that you can clearly distinguish between them.
@Jaisans @glinch72 @AristotleMrs @JohnDublin10 @TWTThisIsNow @ammocrypta @FChecker76 @Willard1951 @geoguy_usa104 @Stephen90045069 @NonlinearDarren @Climatehope2 @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @BrknMan @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @dan613 @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado @IngersolRobert @CarrudoDon @DK25769559 3/16》Likewise, an offset which lines up HadCRUT & UAH makes a nice combined graph: HadCRUT surface temps until satellite data is available, and UAH from then on. (For the 10 year overlap which I used they had similar trends, except the satellites showed larger ENSO excursions.)
@Jaisans @glinch72 @AristotleMrs @JohnDublin10 @TWTThisIsNow @ammocrypta @FChecker76 @Willard1951 @geoguy_usa104 @Stephen90045069 @NonlinearDarren @Climatehope2 @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @BrknMan @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @dan613 @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado @IngersolRobert @CarrudoDon @DK25769559 4/16》Likewise, the slight offset between the 2 HadCRUT versions lets us align them with each other for the ten year overlap period with UAH. Without that it would not be as clear that they were nearly identical for 1976-89, but v3 showed a bit more warming than v4 for 1958-76.
@Jaisans @glinch72 @AristotleMrs @JohnDublin10 @TWTThisIsNow @ammocrypta @FChecker76 @Willard1951 @geoguy_usa104 @Stephen90045069 @NonlinearDarren @Climatehope2 @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @BrknMan @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @dan613 @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado @IngersolRobert @CarrudoDon @DK25769559 5/16》I suppose it shouldn't surprise me that so many climate alarmists have trouble understanding graphs. Understanding graphs makes it hard to get alarmed about climate change.
It's hard to make people worry about sea-level if they understand this graph:
sealevel.info/Dutch_dike_vs_…
@Jaisans @glinch72 @AristotleMrs @JohnDublin10 @TWTThisIsNow @ammocrypta @FChecker76 @Willard1951 @geoguy_usa104 @Stephen90045069 @NonlinearDarren @Climatehope2 @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @BrknMan @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @dan613 @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado @IngersolRobert @CarrudoDon @DK25769559 6/16》Likewise, it's hard to fool people into thinking manmade climate change causes or worsens fires if they understand this graph.
@Jaisans @glinch72 @AristotleMrs @JohnDublin10 @TWTThisIsNow @ammocrypta @FChecker76 @Willard1951 @geoguy_usa104 @Stephen90045069 @NonlinearDarren @Climatehope2 @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @BrknMan @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @dan613 @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado @IngersolRobert @CarrudoDon @DK25769559 7/16》...and this one:
@Jaisans @glinch72 @AristotleMrs @JohnDublin10 @TWTThisIsNow @ammocrypta @FChecker76 @Willard1951 @geoguy_usa104 @Stephen90045069 @NonlinearDarren @Climatehope2 @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @BrknMan @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @dan613 @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado @IngersolRobert @CarrudoDon @DK25769559 8/16》Likewise, it's hard to fool people into blaming hurricanes on manmade climate change if they understand this graph.
@Jaisans @glinch72 @AristotleMrs @JohnDublin10 @TWTThisIsNow @ammocrypta @FChecker76 @Willard1951 @geoguy_usa104 @Stephen90045069 @NonlinearDarren @Climatehope2 @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @BrknMan @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @dan613 @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado @IngersolRobert @CarrudoDon @DK25769559 9/16》...or this one:
@Jaisans @glinch72 @AristotleMrs @JohnDublin10 @TWTThisIsNow @ammocrypta @FChecker76 @Willard1951 @geoguy_usa104 @Stephen90045069 @NonlinearDarren @Climatehope2 @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @BrknMan @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @dan613 @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado @IngersolRobert @CarrudoDon @DK25769559 10/16》It's also hard to convince people to blame other kinds of extreme weather on CO2 and climate change, if they understand graphs like this:
@Jaisans @glinch72 @AristotleMrs @JohnDublin10 @TWTThisIsNow @ammocrypta @FChecker76 @Willard1951 @geoguy_usa104 @Stephen90045069 @NonlinearDarren @Climatehope2 @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @BrknMan @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @dan613 @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado @IngersolRobert @CarrudoDon @DK25769559 11/16》Agronomists know elevated CO2 helps mitigate drought damage, by making plants more water-efficient. But it's hard to convince even people who don't know that to blame droughts on anthropogenic climate change, if they understand graphs like these:
@Jaisans @glinch72 @AristotleMrs @JohnDublin10 @TWTThisIsNow @ammocrypta @FChecker76 @Willard1951 @geoguy_usa104 @Stephen90045069 @NonlinearDarren @Climatehope2 @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @BrknMan @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @dan613 @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado @IngersolRobert @CarrudoDon @DK25769559 12/16》...and this:
ncdc.noaa.gov/temp-and-preci…
@Jaisans @glinch72 @AristotleMrs @JohnDublin10 @TWTThisIsNow @ammocrypta @FChecker76 @Willard1951 @geoguy_usa104 @Stephen90045069 @NonlinearDarren @Climatehope2 @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @BrknMan @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @dan613 @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado @IngersolRobert @CarrudoDon @DK25769559 13/16》It's hard to convince people that rising CO2 levels threaten food security if they know anything about agronomy, or if they understand graphs like this one:
@Jaisans @glinch72 @AristotleMrs @JohnDublin10 @TWTThisIsNow @ammocrypta @FChecker76 @Willard1951 @geoguy_usa104 @Stephen90045069 @NonlinearDarren @Climatehope2 @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @BrknMan @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @dan613 @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado @IngersolRobert @CarrudoDon @DK25769559 14/16》...and this:
sealevel.info/C3_and_C4_Pfla…
@Jaisans @glinch72 @AristotleMrs @JohnDublin10 @TWTThisIsNow @ammocrypta @FChecker76 @Willard1951 @geoguy_usa104 @Stephen90045069 @NonlinearDarren @Climatehope2 @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @BrknMan @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @dan613 @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado @IngersolRobert @CarrudoDon @DK25769559 15/16》It is hard to dupe people into blaming famines on CO2 emissions if they're old enough to remember when major famines were often in the news, in places like Africa and Bangladesh, or if they understand graphs like this one:
@Jaisans @glinch72 @AristotleMrs @JohnDublin10 @TWTThisIsNow @ammocrypta @FChecker76 @Willard1951 @geoguy_usa104 @Stephen90045069 @NonlinearDarren @Climatehope2 @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @BrknMan @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @dan613 @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado @IngersolRobert @CarrudoDon @DK25769559 16/16》The bottom line is that the better you understand climate change, the less you'll worry about it.
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