Thread by @ncdave4life

@jwickers @BJChippindale @tracemetalclean @Willard1951 @EthonRaptor @Jaisans @BrknMan @B_Bolshevik100 @GregTruman4 @Mark_A_Lunn @Climatehope2 @glinch72 @AristotleMrs @JohnDublin10 @TWTThisIsNow @ammocrypta @FChecker76 @geoguy_usa104 @Stephen90045069 @NonlinearDarren @flyonthewall182 @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @BradPKeyes @JSegor @BridgetHolmstro @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @dan613 @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado @IngersolRobert 1/10》I did not forget those, but you apparently don't know other processes offset those. E.g.:

warmer temps ⇒ less ice coverage on lakes & oceans ⇒ increased evaporation ⇒ more Lake/Ocean-Effect Snowfall (LOES) on ice sheets & glaciers ⇒ less SLR

@jwickers @BJChippindale @tracemetalclean @Willard1951 @EthonRaptor @Jaisans @BrknMan @B_Bolshevik100 @GregTruman4 @Mark_A_Lunn @Climatehope2 @glinch72 @AristotleMrs @JohnDublin10 @TWTThisIsNow @ammocrypta @FChecker76 @geoguy_usa104 @Stephen90045069 @NonlinearDarren @flyonthewall182 @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @BradPKeyes @JSegor @BridgetHolmstro @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @dan613 @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado @IngersolRobert 2/10》Some people suppose AGW must accelerate sea-level rise, because it causes thermal expansion and, under some circumstances, it melts ice. But they ignore the fact that AGW also increases snowfall on ice sheets & glaciers, which is an offsetting effect, lowering sea-level.

@jwickers @BJChippindale @tracemetalclean @Willard1951 @EthonRaptor @Jaisans @BrknMan @B_Bolshevik100 @GregTruman4 @Mark_A_Lunn @Climatehope2 @glinch72 @AristotleMrs @JohnDublin10 @TWTThisIsNow @ammocrypta @FChecker76 @geoguy_usa104 @Stephen90045069 @NonlinearDarren @flyonthewall182 @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @BradPKeyes @JSegor @BridgetHolmstro @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @dan613 @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado @IngersolRobert 3/10》It does so through 2 distinct mechanisms:

#1. Warmer air carries more moisture. Below freezing, it's 8-12% more moisture per 1°C warming. (That's why heaviest blizzards occur when temps are only slightly below freezing.)

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@jwickers @BJChippindale @tracemetalclean @Willard1951 @EthonRaptor @Jaisans @BrknMan @B_Bolshevik100 @GregTruman4 @Mark_A_Lunn @Climatehope2 @glinch72 @AristotleMrs @JohnDublin10 @TWTThisIsNow @ammocrypta @FChecker76 @geoguy_usa104 @Stephen90045069 @NonlinearDarren @flyonthewall182 @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @BradPKeyes @JSegor @BridgetHolmstro @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @dan613 @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado @IngersolRobert 4/10》
#2. Reduced sea ice coverage = more open water, increasing ocean evaporation and thus "lake/ocean-effect snowfall" (LOES) on downwind land.
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@jwickers @BJChippindale @tracemetalclean @Willard1951 @EthonRaptor @Jaisans @BrknMan @B_Bolshevik100 @GregTruman4 @Mark_A_Lunn @Climatehope2 @glinch72 @AristotleMrs @JohnDublin10 @TWTThisIsNow @ammocrypta @FChecker76 @geoguy_usa104 @Stephen90045069 @NonlinearDarren @flyonthewall182 @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @BradPKeyes @JSegor @BridgetHolmstro @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @dan613 @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado @IngersolRobert 5/10》The importance of LOES is illustrated by the story of Glacier Girl, a P-38 which made a forced landing on the Greenland Ice Sheet during WWII. It was buried by snowfall which averaged ≈70 feet/yr, and recovered 50 years later.
airspacemag.com/history-of-fli…

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p38assn.org/glacier-girl-r…

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p38assn.org/glaciergirl/im…

@jwickers @BJChippindale @tracemetalclean @Willard1951 @EthonRaptor @Jaisans @BrknMan @B_Bolshevik100 @GregTruman4 @Mark_A_Lunn @Climatehope2 @glinch72 @AristotleMrs @JohnDublin10 @TWTThisIsNow @ammocrypta @FChecker76 @geoguy_usa104 @Stephen90045069 @NonlinearDarren @flyonthewall182 @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @BradPKeyes @JSegor @BridgetHolmstro @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @dan613 @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado @IngersolRobert 8/10》Highest-quality long-term sea-level measurement records are consistent in 1 key respect. Trends vary (mostly due to varying local vertical land motion), but acceleration is near zero for the last 90 years, at least. (Some sites saw a small acceleration between 1850 & 1930.)

@jwickers @BJChippindale @tracemetalclean @Willard1951 @EthonRaptor @Jaisans @BrknMan @B_Bolshevik100 @GregTruman4 @Mark_A_Lunn @Climatehope2 @glinch72 @AristotleMrs @JohnDublin10 @TWTThisIsNow @ammocrypta @FChecker76 @geoguy_usa104 @Stephen90045069 @NonlinearDarren @flyonthewall182 @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @BradPKeyes @JSegor @BridgetHolmstro @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @dan613 @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado @IngersolRobert 9/10》Here's a particularly high-quality long measurement record (from the Dutch, who, understandably, have been paying attention to sea-level for longer than most people):
sealevel.info/MSL_graph.php?…

@jwickers @BJChippindale @tracemetalclean @Willard1951 @EthonRaptor @Jaisans @BrknMan @B_Bolshevik100 @GregTruman4 @Mark_A_Lunn @Climatehope2 @glinch72 @AristotleMrs @JohnDublin10 @TWTThisIsNow @ammocrypta @FChecker76 @geoguy_usa104 @Stephen90045069 @NonlinearDarren @flyonthewall182 @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @BradPKeyes @JSegor @BridgetHolmstro @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @dan613 @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado @IngersolRobert 10/10》There's no consensus that manmade climate change is dangerous, nor even that it is harmful at all. The best SCIENTIFIC evidence is that manmade climate change is modest & benign, and CO2 emissions are beneficial, rather than harmful.