@tracemetalclean @Willard1951 @glinch72 @S_D_Mannix @TWTThisIsNow @Climatehope2 @Ceist8 @BrknMan @Stephen90045069 @Data79504085 @FChecker76 @AristotleMrs @dan613 @JohnDublin10 @ammocrypta @geoguy_usa104 @NonlinearDarren @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @Jaisans @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado 1/17》The IPCC's anonymous "responses" to the comments are very telling. Note all the "we are not aware of" responses, about things which they obviously SHOULD have been aware of -- yet they not only didn't bother to look up the information, they didn't even ask me about it.
@tracemetalclean @Willard1951 @glinch72 @S_D_Mannix @TWTThisIsNow @Climatehope2 @Ceist8 @BrknMan @Stephen90045069 @Data79504085 @FChecker76 @AristotleMrs @dan613 @JohnDublin10 @ammocrypta @geoguy_usa104 @NonlinearDarren @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @Jaisans @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado 2/17》I submitted my AR6 WG1 FOD comments over two years ago, and they still have not responded to any of them, neither publicly, nor to me directly.
@tracemetalclean @Willard1951 @glinch72 @S_D_Mannix @TWTThisIsNow @Climatehope2 @Ceist8 @BrknMan @Stephen90045069 @Data79504085 @FChecker76 @AristotleMrs @dan613 @JohnDublin10 @ammocrypta @geoguy_usa104 @NonlinearDarren @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @Jaisans @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado 3/17》Imagine a journal which ran its peer-review process that way: the reviewers write comments, the authors ignore them, the journal publishes the paper, and then the authors write excuses for ignoring the reviewers' comments.
Would YOU trust such a journal?
@tracemetalclean @Willard1951 @glinch72 @S_D_Mannix @TWTThisIsNow @Climatehope2 @Ceist8 @BrknMan @Stephen90045069 @Data79504085 @FChecker76 @AristotleMrs @dan613 @JohnDublin10 @ammocrypta @geoguy_usa104 @NonlinearDarren @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @Jaisans @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado 4/17》Sometimes the IPCC's responses are just plain wrong, or even contradictory. (Contradictory responses probably happen because different people are writing them.) Since they don't respond until after the report is released, there's no way to address their confusion.
@tracemetalclean @Willard1951 @glinch72 @S_D_Mannix @TWTThisIsNow @Climatehope2 @Ceist8 @BrknMan @Stephen90045069 @Data79504085 @FChecker76 @AristotleMrs @dan613 @JohnDublin10 @ammocrypta @geoguy_usa104 @NonlinearDarren @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @Jaisans @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado 5/17》E.g., in comments about several different parts of the Report I complained about inclusion of Peltier's 0.3 mm/yr GIA adjustment to arrive at their inflated 1.7 mm/yr rate of 20th century sea-level rise. In every case they rejected my complaints. But the excuses varied.
@tracemetalclean @Willard1951 @glinch72 @S_D_Mannix @TWTThisIsNow @Climatehope2 @Ceist8 @BrknMan @Stephen90045069 @Data79504085 @FChecker76 @AristotleMrs @dan613 @JohnDublin10 @ammocrypta @geoguy_usa104 @NonlinearDarren @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @Jaisans @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado 6/17》Sometimes they claimed that they did NOT include the 0.3 mm/yr adjustment ("the 1.7 mm/year rate does not have a 0.3 mm/year correction applied," they wrote).
@tracemetalclean @Willard1951 @glinch72 @S_D_Mannix @TWTThisIsNow @Climatehope2 @Ceist8 @BrknMan @Stephen90045069 @Data79504085 @FChecker76 @AristotleMrs @dan613 @JohnDublin10 @ammocrypta @geoguy_usa104 @NonlinearDarren @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @Jaisans @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado 7/17》Other times they claimed that it was proper to include the 0.3 mm/yr adjustment (it was "done to extract the 1.7 mm/yr SLR supposed to reflect climate processes only," they said).
@tracemetalclean @Willard1951 @glinch72 @S_D_Mannix @TWTThisIsNow @Climatehope2 @Ceist8 @BrknMan @Stephen90045069 @Data79504085 @FChecker76 @AristotleMrs @dan613 @JohnDublin10 @ammocrypta @geoguy_usa104 @NonlinearDarren @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @Jaisans @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado 8/17》I suppose that inconsistency happened because they had multiple people writing the responses, but it is telling that those people didn't agree except about the result: "Rejected."
@tracemetalclean @Willard1951 @glinch72 @S_D_Mannix @TWTThisIsNow @Climatehope2 @Ceist8 @BrknMan @Stephen90045069 @Data79504085 @FChecker76 @AristotleMrs @dan613 @JohnDublin10 @ammocrypta @geoguy_usa104 @NonlinearDarren @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @Jaisans @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado 9/17》Of course, since I didn't get to see any of their responses until after the final report had been released, there was no way to point out their confusions to them.
@tracemetalclean @Willard1951 @glinch72 @S_D_Mannix @TWTThisIsNow @Climatehope2 @Ceist8 @BrknMan @Stephen90045069 @Data79504085 @FChecker76 @AristotleMrs @dan613 @JohnDublin10 @ammocrypta @geoguy_usa104 @NonlinearDarren @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @Jaisans @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado 10/17》Note their shocking confusion about elementary physics, in their response to the #13-9 AR5 FOD comment, that you linked to. They rejected my comment because do not understand that gravity balances mass, not volume!
Believe it or not!
sealevel.info/thermal_expans…
@tracemetalclean @Willard1951 @glinch72 @S_D_Mannix @TWTThisIsNow @Climatehope2 @Ceist8 @BrknMan @Stephen90045069 @Data79504085 @FChecker76 @AristotleMrs @dan613 @JohnDublin10 @ammocrypta @geoguy_usa104 @NonlinearDarren @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @Jaisans @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado 11/17》Any competent undergraduate physics major could have explained it to them. But they think when mid-ocean thermal expansion raises a "bump" in the ocean, the water runs downhill and raises sea-level elsewhere.
It sure demonstrates the scientific ignorance of IPCC authors.
@tracemetalclean @Willard1951 @glinch72 @S_D_Mannix @TWTThisIsNow @Climatehope2 @Ceist8 @BrknMan @Stephen90045069 @Data79504085 @FChecker76 @AristotleMrs @dan613 @JohnDublin10 @ammocrypta @geoguy_usa104 @NonlinearDarren @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @Jaisans @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado 12/17》They apparently do not understand why an iceberg is not flush with the surrounding water.
The basic principle is simple: gravity acts on mass, and doesn't care about density. If the density decreases you get a strictly local "bump" in the ocean, but no effect elsewhere.
@tracemetalclean @Willard1951 @glinch72 @S_D_Mannix @TWTThisIsNow @Climatehope2 @Ceist8 @BrknMan @Stephen90045069 @Data79504085 @FChecker76 @AristotleMrs @dan613 @JohnDublin10 @ammocrypta @geoguy_usa104 @NonlinearDarren @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @Jaisans @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado 13/17》Digression: The NSF was confused about more or less the same thing, until I pointed out their error. Unlike the IPCC, the NSF corrected it, when it was pointed out to them (though the error remained in an uncorrected .pdf version of their book).
sealevel.info/nsf_seaice_bef…
@tracemetalclean @Willard1951 @glinch72 @S_D_Mannix @TWTThisIsNow @Climatehope2 @Ceist8 @BrknMan @Stephen90045069 @Data79504085 @FChecker76 @AristotleMrs @dan613 @JohnDublin10 @ammocrypta @geoguy_usa104 @NonlinearDarren @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @Jaisans @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado 14/17》I thought the NSF should use their mistake as a "teaching moment," So I wrote a proposed footnote for them, and tried to get them to add it to their correction, but they didn't bother. Here's the footnote:
sealevel.info/sea_ice/nsf_fo…
@tracemetalclean @Willard1951 @glinch72 @S_D_Mannix @TWTThisIsNow @Climatehope2 @Ceist8 @BrknMan @Stephen90045069 @Data79504085 @FChecker76 @AristotleMrs @dan613 @JohnDublin10 @ammocrypta @geoguy_usa104 @NonlinearDarren @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @Jaisans @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado 15/17》The IPCC has very serious credibility issues. Investigative journalist Donna Laframboise explains some of the problems in this lecture:
(It's 31 minutes, but, to her credit, she speaks so clearly that she's perfectly understandable at 2x speed.)
@tracemetalclean @Willard1951 @glinch72 @S_D_Mannix @TWTThisIsNow @Climatehope2 @Ceist8 @BrknMan @Stephen90045069 @Data79504085 @FChecker76 @AristotleMrs @dan613 @JohnDublin10 @ammocrypta @geoguy_usa104 @NonlinearDarren @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @Jaisans @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado 16/17》Ms. Laframboise has also written a highly-acclaimed book:
amazon.com/Delinquent-Tee…
@tracemetalclean @Willard1951 @glinch72 @S_D_Mannix @TWTThisIsNow @Climatehope2 @Ceist8 @BrknMan @Stephen90045069 @Data79504085 @FChecker76 @AristotleMrs @dan613 @JohnDublin10 @ammocrypta @geoguy_usa104 @NonlinearDarren @flyonthewall182 @GregTruman4 @Jaisans @GregCoo85844909 @25_cycle @don85375 @ZSRenn @1tsakeeper @LizHersch1 @KCTaz @JustThi30117912 @gregchoat @Anvndarnamn5 @B_Bolshevik100 @NickMcGinley1 @RobMeekel @cieloyla @EthonRaptor @BradPKeyes @JSegor @Mark_A_Lunn @BridgetHolmstro @jwickers @0Sundance @PeterMayfitz @omahas @TonyBoloni8 @TheDisproof @DanCady @Keeper_86 @Jamz129 @CallMeBlaise1 @ostinado 17/17》The bottom line is that IPCC reports are untrustworthy. Although there's a lot of useful information sprinkled through them, there are also severe errors, both of omission and commission. They are severely biased, and the process through which they are created ensures it.
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