Thread by @kat_blaque

Okay so let's just ignore who posted this and said this. I'm kind of curious to hear from transgender women if you feel like this is a helpful defense for you? Completely overlooking whether you like this person or not objectively, You think you are helped by this?

I'm asking because even if my best friend said something like this in my defense, it would nick the back of my neck because it's misogyny and as a woman, that would just really bother me.

And while maybe there's a part of me that might appreciate the desire to defend me, I would probably feel like this wasn't a person I could fully trust.

I think we've long established That apparently this approach doesn't gel with me because I'm out of touch with current internet trends, but I'm really curious how other trans women feel about this completely ignoring who posted it and your feelings about that person

I'm all for telling transphobes to shut up because yeah, they should. But there is a long history of silencing women that would make me negatively respond to someone saying that women should speak less and that their opinions do not matter because they are women

I'm asking because apparently these tactics are productive for some people. Apparently many people find these tactics to be helpful to their cause. I'm trying to understand why because I have a hard time seeing it that way

I am often criticized for not entirely dismissing turf talking points because when I hear many of them speak, would I hear is a woman misdirecting her anger. That's something that is very much valid

Women have certainly been told for very long time to shut up and accept something that A man wants and I think that a lot of times they take that very real issue and pervert it into something different with trans women as target

So I guess for me deliberately and clearly making the argument that women should be quiet and accept transgender women, just kind of plays. Very neatly into that hand and feels incredibly unhelpful to me. But I can understand that maybe this feels cathartic for others

Because I am personally a person who likes to have conversations and figure out where we can coexist, I just see this is very unproductive. How nice it feels to tell a trans phobe to shut up.

I think what I personally struggle with is that people reading this are not going to come out of it with seeing a cisgender man just being misogynistic as they always are, they're coming out of it believing that transgender women are misogynistic and so are their defenders

I really struggle to see how that's helpful.