@RichardAHolcom1 @Jaisans @BBfanning @ChrisBBacon3 @Climatehope2 @Data79504085 @Anvndarnamn5 @wjack76995 @Veritatem2021 @AristotleMrs @ammocrypta @Rocky35418823 @DenisDaly @Willard1951 @JimBowersclimb @glinch72 @NobaconEgbert @JaapTitulaer @Mark_A_Lunn @balls95652097 @JustThi30117912 @fischerfischy @SniemN @BointonGiles @priscian @Hji45519156 @SeekerTheGreat1 @Michael_D_Crow @ubique60 @CDMarshall7 @heinsenberger @Ceist8 @EthonRaptor @RMcgillss @paligap17 @S_D_Mannix @TheDisproof @MaggieL @Willy1000 @AuroriaTwittori @3GHtweets @RushhourP @MartinJBern @gstrandberg1 @ItsTheAtmospher @Jakegsm @EricWil06256732 @DTGvmd @wille99 @PaulDFarrar Rick, you're certainly correct that on long timescales (e.g., ≥15K years) natural climate change dwarfs the very slight (at most about 1°C) warming which mankind's GHG emissions have caused.
@RichardAHolcom1 @Jaisans @BBfanning @ChrisBBacon3 @Climatehope2 @Data79504085 @Anvndarnamn5 @wjack76995 @Veritatem2021 @AristotleMrs @ammocrypta @Rocky35418823 @DenisDaly @Willard1951 @JimBowersclimb @glinch72 @NobaconEgbert @JaapTitulaer @Mark_A_Lunn @balls95652097 @JustThi30117912 @fischerfischy @SniemN @BointonGiles @priscian @Hji45519156 @SeekerTheGreat1 @Michael_D_Crow @ubique60 @CDMarshall7 @heinsenberger @Ceist8 @EthonRaptor @RMcgillss @paligap17 @S_D_Mannix @TheDisproof @MaggieL @Willy1000 @AuroriaTwittori @3GHtweets @RushhourP @MartinJBern @gstrandberg1 @ItsTheAtmospher @Jakegsm @EricWil06256732 @DTGvmd @wille99 @PaulDFarrar Over glaciation cycles, CO2 trend reversals generally LAG temperature trend reversals by 100s of years. Cooling began when the CO2 "control knob" was set to "warmest," and warming began when it was set to "coldest." (Some control knob!)
@RichardAHolcom1 @Jaisans @BBfanning @ChrisBBacon3 @Climatehope2 @Data79504085 @Anvndarnamn5 @wjack76995 @Veritatem2021 @AristotleMrs @ammocrypta @Rocky35418823 @DenisDaly @Willard1951 @JimBowersclimb @glinch72 @NobaconEgbert @JaapTitulaer @Mark_A_Lunn @balls95652097 @JustThi30117912 @fischerfischy @SniemN @BointonGiles @priscian @Hji45519156 @SeekerTheGreat1 @Michael_D_Crow @ubique60 @CDMarshall7 @heinsenberger @Ceist8 @EthonRaptor @RMcgillss @paligap17 @S_D_Mannix @TheDisproof @MaggieL @Willy1000 @AuroriaTwittori @3GHtweets @RushhourP @MartinJBern @gstrandberg1 @ItsTheAtmospher @Jakegsm @EricWil06256732 @DTGvmd That Mulvany @NatGeo article which @Jaisans
cited is based on disinformation from three of the most notorious peddlers of climate propaganda in the business: Nuccitelli, Hausfather & Hayhoe.
@RichardAHolcom1 @Jaisans @BBfanning @ChrisBBacon3 @Climatehope2 @Data79504085 @Anvndarnamn5 @wjack76995 @Veritatem2021 @AristotleMrs @ammocrypta @Rocky35418823 @DenisDaly @Willard1951 @JimBowersclimb @glinch72 @NobaconEgbert @JaapTitulaer @Mark_A_Lunn @balls95652097 @JustThi30117912 @fischerfischy @SniemN @BointonGiles @priscian @Hji45519156 @SeekerTheGreat1 @Michael_D_Crow @ubique60 @CDMarshall7 @heinsenberger @Ceist8 @EthonRaptor @RMcgillss @paligap17 @S_D_Mannix @TheDisproof @MaggieL @Willy1000 @AuroriaTwittori @3GHtweets @RushhourP @MartinJBern @gstrandberg1 @ItsTheAtmospher @Jakegsm @EricWil06256732 @DTGvmd @NatGeo The Mulvany @NatGeo article claims early climate models were "remarkably accurate in their predictions of global temperature increases." That's a lie. Actually, those climate models were spectacularly inaccurate.
Hansen et al 1988 was the most famous:
sealevel.info/hansen1988_ret…
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Even economists are embarrassed by errors that big.
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"Any damn fool can predict the past." -Larry Niven
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@RichardAHolcom1 @Jaisans @BBfanning @ChrisBBacon3 @Climatehope2 @Data79504085 @Anvndarnamn5 @wjack76995 @Veritatem2021 @AristotleMrs @ammocrypta @Rocky35418823 @DenisDaly @Willard1951 @JimBowersclimb @glinch72 @NobaconEgbert @JaapTitulaer @Mark_A_Lunn @balls95652097 @JustThi30117912 @fischerfischy @SniemN @BointonGiles @priscian @Hji45519156 @SeekerTheGreat1 @Michael_D_Crow @ubique60 @CDMarshall7 @heinsenberger @Ceist8 @EthonRaptor @RMcgillss @paligap17 @S_D_Mannix @TheDisproof @MaggieL @Willy1000 @AuroriaTwittori @3GHtweets @RushhourP @MartinJBern @gstrandberg1 @ItsTheAtmospher @Jakegsm @EricWil06256732 @DTGvmd @NatGeo People like Kieran Mulvaney @kieranmulvaney, who rely on extreme climate activists like Nuccitelli, Hausfather & Hayhoe for their information, thereby guarantee their own confusion. It's like relying on TASS and RT for info on the war in Ukraine.
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