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ID doc at @AHNtoday. Med. Director, ASP at Allegheny Valley. Husband and father of 3. Prefers being outdoors. Used to be a good bowler. Opinions my own.

Oct 22, 2022, 16 tweets

What drives physicians refusing ASP recommendations?

We looked into it.

Just got done presenting our #IDWeek2022 oral abstract.
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First, there are a bunch of ways to do TeleASP, but especially the more "intense" models have shown success and can be as good as on-site programs.

Our prior work: academic.oup.com/cid/article/71…

SCORE trial from @E_Stenehjem et al.: academic.oup.com/cid/article/67…

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What do we know already about what influences rec acceptance?

Summary of prior work, including great work from @BRxAD - surgeons tend to be less accepting, and recs that reduce antibiotic exposure refused more.

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This study adds data for TeleASP and for adult inpatients in the US.

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Structure of the program (ID doc review with non-clinical pharmacist -> recs to primary team).

30 months of data and variables we tracked, including physician characteristics, for which there's less data.

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We gave a lot of recommendations, and acceptance rate overall was great.

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But what variables mattered?

Whether there was an APP involved and whether we spent one on one time with the physician explaining the program didn't.

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On univariable analysis, those surgeons didn't look great. Neither did pulmonologists or private practice PCPs.

But in multivariable, no longer significant.

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So what was significant?

✅ Female > male
✅ Type of rec mattered - stop/discontinue = lower odds of acceptance

And the big one:
21+ years experience = lowest odds of acceptance

(I'll come back to CCM in a minute)

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Some thoughts on why the meeting wasn't important - we empowered local pharmacists and they became a trusted local resource.

Actually this is great - if the ID docs don't need to be on site, a given TeleASP can have more impact without geographic limits.

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We did find that recs to limit antibiotic use led to lower acceptance. Makes sense.

But specialty wasn't significant in multivariable.

Why?

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Because years of experience seemed to be more important.

Maybe the surgeons/private practice PCPs/pulmonologists trended toward older and male.

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Of course have some limitations, one of which is low n of CCM docs, one of whom was super engaged - so wouldn't generalize our CCM findings.

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Final thoughts - this might help us think about who could use some extra ASP education or targeted intervention.

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And thanks to my co-authors, our @AHNtoday ASP team, and the HVHS pharmacists.

@TomWalshMD13 @matthewmof31 @canigetazpak @dnbrems @DustinRCarr @cbuchananpharm @CessnaPharmD

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Full study is now published.

academic.oup.com/ofid/article/9…

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