Thread by @ncdave4life

@gstrandberg1 @Willard1951 @Climate_Takes @Climatehope2 @AristotleMrs @S_D_Mannix @fischerfischy @DenisDaly @Ceist8 @ItsTheAtmospher @Anvndarnamn5 @Rocky35418823 @ShroedingerBird @Michael_D_Crow @SniemN @CDMarshall7 @Data79504085 @Veritatem2021 @glinch72 @EthonRaptor @ChrisBBacon3 @Jaisans @Hji45519156 @ammocrypta @RMcgillss @paligap17 @JustThi30117912 @BointonGiles @TheDisproof @MaggieL @Willy1000 @Mark_A_Lunn @AuroriaTwittori @3GHtweets @RushhourP @MartinJBern @Jakegsm @EricWil06256732 @DTGvmd @wille99 @PaulDFarrar @KCTaz @Valja46Zhark5 @paulp1232 @J0aquIm_B4rb0s4 @Sky48115666 @0Sundance @EcoSenseNow 1/6》Willard wrote, "actual TSI decrease in 'minimum' is only ~1 W/m^2, which converts to a solar forcing change of ~0.17 W/m^2"

He's quite confused…

@gstrandberg1 @Willard1951 @Climate_Takes @Climatehope2 @AristotleMrs @S_D_Mannix @fischerfischy @DenisDaly @Ceist8 @ItsTheAtmospher @Anvndarnamn5 @Rocky35418823 @ShroedingerBird @Michael_D_Crow @SniemN @CDMarshall7 @Data79504085 @Veritatem2021 @glinch72 @EthonRaptor @ChrisBBacon3 @Jaisans @Hji45519156 @ammocrypta @RMcgillss @paligap17 @JustThi30117912 @BointonGiles @TheDisproof @MaggieL @Willy1000 @Mark_A_Lunn @AuroriaTwittori @3GHtweets @RushhourP @MartinJBern @Jakegsm @EricWil06256732 @DTGvmd @wille99 @PaulDFarrar @KCTaz @Valja46Zhark5 @paulp1232 @J0aquIm_B4rb0s4 @Sky48115666 @0Sundance @EcoSenseNow 2/6》The main effects of grand solar min/max aren't thought to be via TSI. They're said to be indirect, via changes in the Sun's magnetic field, which modulates cosmic rays that reach Earth, which, in turn, affects cloud formation.


agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.10…

@gstrandberg1 @Willard1951 @Climate_Takes @Climatehope2 @AristotleMrs @S_D_Mannix @fischerfischy @DenisDaly @Ceist8 @ItsTheAtmospher @Anvndarnamn5 @Rocky35418823 @ShroedingerBird @Michael_D_Crow @SniemN @CDMarshall7 @Data79504085 @Veritatem2021 @glinch72 @EthonRaptor @ChrisBBacon3 @Jaisans @Hji45519156 @ammocrypta @RMcgillss @paligap17 @JustThi30117912 @BointonGiles @TheDisproof @MaggieL @Willy1000 @Mark_A_Lunn @AuroriaTwittori @3GHtweets @RushhourP @MartinJBern @Jakegsm @EricWil06256732 @DTGvmd @wille99 @PaulDFarrar @KCTaz @Valja46Zhark5 @paulp1232 @J0aquIm_B4rb0s4 @Sky48115666 @0Sundance @EcoSenseNow 3/6》Also, Willard conflated TSI variation over the course of an 11-year solar cycle (which is, indeed, only about 1 W/m²), with the difference in TSI between grand solar minima & grand solar maxima (which is variously estimated to be 0.1 W/m² to 6 W/m²).
aanda.org/articles/aa/fu…

@gstrandberg1 @Willard1951 @Climate_Takes @Climatehope2 @AristotleMrs @S_D_Mannix @fischerfischy @DenisDaly @Ceist8 @ItsTheAtmospher @Anvndarnamn5 @Rocky35418823 @ShroedingerBird @Michael_D_Crow @SniemN @CDMarshall7 @Data79504085 @Veritatem2021 @glinch72 @EthonRaptor @ChrisBBacon3 @Jaisans @Hji45519156 @ammocrypta @RMcgillss @paligap17 @JustThi30117912 @BointonGiles @TheDisproof @MaggieL @Willy1000 @Mark_A_Lunn @AuroriaTwittori @3GHtweets @RushhourP @MartinJBern @Jakegsm @EricWil06256732 @DTGvmd @wille99 @PaulDFarrar @KCTaz @Valja46Zhark5 @paulp1232 @J0aquIm_B4rb0s4 @Sky48115666 @0Sundance @EcoSenseNow 4/6》Also, 1/4 = 0.25, not 0.17
(I don't know where he got that "0.17" figure, and I can't ask him, because he blocked me.)

@gstrandberg1 @Willard1951 @Climate_Takes @Climatehope2 @AristotleMrs @S_D_Mannix @fischerfischy @DenisDaly @Ceist8 @ItsTheAtmospher @Anvndarnamn5 @Rocky35418823 @ShroedingerBird @Michael_D_Crow @SniemN @CDMarshall7 @Data79504085 @Veritatem2021 @glinch72 @EthonRaptor @ChrisBBacon3 @Jaisans @Hji45519156 @ammocrypta @RMcgillss @paligap17 @JustThi30117912 @BointonGiles @TheDisproof @MaggieL @Willy1000 @Mark_A_Lunn @AuroriaTwittori @3GHtweets @RushhourP @MartinJBern @Jakegsm @EricWil06256732 @DTGvmd @wille99 @PaulDFarrar @KCTaz @Valja46Zhark5 @paulp1232 @J0aquIm_B4rb0s4 @Sky48115666 @0Sundance @EcoSenseNow 5/6》However, Greg, I disagree about the UN Agenda 2030 folks. They don't want to take credit for cooling actually caused by an anticipated Grand Solar Minimum. They're far too clueless for that. Most of them probably never even heard the speculation about an emergent GSM.

@gstrandberg1 @Willard1951 @Climate_Takes @Climatehope2 @AristotleMrs @S_D_Mannix @fischerfischy @DenisDaly @Ceist8 @ItsTheAtmospher @Anvndarnamn5 @Rocky35418823 @ShroedingerBird @Michael_D_Crow @SniemN @CDMarshall7 @Data79504085 @Veritatem2021 @glinch72 @EthonRaptor @ChrisBBacon3 @Jaisans @Hji45519156 @ammocrypta @RMcgillss @paligap17 @JustThi30117912 @BointonGiles @TheDisproof @MaggieL @Willy1000 @Mark_A_Lunn @AuroriaTwittori @3GHtweets @RushhourP @MartinJBern @Jakegsm @EricWil06256732 @DTGvmd @wille99 @PaulDFarrar @KCTaz @Valja46Zhark5 @paulp1232 @J0aquIm_B4rb0s4 @Sky48115666 @0Sundance @EcoSenseNow 6/6》And, anyhow, it's now pretty clear that there's no Grand Solar Minimum in prospect.