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Journalist w/ @TheGrayzoneNews / Writing: https://t.co/y3NxUhLQQm / Co-host: @UsefulIdiotpod. Email: aaronmate@protonmail.com

Mar 24, 2023, 8 tweets

@thomasphipps Gosh @thomasphipps, whoever is giving you this has come with something incredibly weak -- and that's being generous.

Let's put aside for a second that you've distorted my argument, which I'll return to. Let's just address your argument first.

@thomasphipps You admit that IIT's study "doesn’t mention ‘foam,’" but then assert that that's because "clinicians refer to this symptom" as "fulminating pulmonary edema."

Did you google this? Fulminating means rapid. And pulmonary edema means build up of fluid in the lungs, not oral foaming.… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

@thomasphipps The other odd part of your claim is that your source -- the IIT's study -- doesn't even mention "fulminating pulmonary edema." (Just like it doesn't mention the foaming.)

So you're not only wrong about what "fulminating pulmonary edema" means, you're maybe unaware that the IIT… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

@thomasphipps Here you claim that the IIT's reference study "describes pulmonary edema at length." Correct, but again, you appear to be unaware that pulmonary edema is not a term for rapid oral foaming.

@thomasphipps Then you cite a different study -- not cited by IIT -- which claims that exposure to a certain concentration of chlorine can cause "immediate respiratory arrest." Correct. But the actual question is whether it can cause something different: immediate foaming of the kind seen in… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

@thomasphipps Because your original source, the IIT's referenced study, can't support your claims, you also turn to a third study which, you claim, found that chlorine gas caused "frothy fluid... just like the victims of the CW attack in #Douma."

Did it say that this frothy fluid -- assuming… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

@thomasphipps Speaking of my point, you apparently misheard it. I didn't argue that that "the IIT 'just simply overlooked' the issue of foaming at the mouth."

I argued that the IIT and its toxicologist avoid the issue of whether the observed symptoms in Douma, namely rapid profuse foaming,… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

@thomasphipps As I said, rather than make a judgment on that, they only address obvious and irrelevant issues like whether "dust inhalation" caused the foaming. As I also said today, this is an alleged chlorine attack, not a dust one. So where's the call on whether chlorine caused the foaming?… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…

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