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May 30, 2023, 13 tweets

X'Trapolis 2.0 | MY IMPRESSION AND YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED

25 of these new trains will be built in Victoria, and enter service from 2025/6. They're gonna be great - I'm so grateful I got to speak to the project team and ask every annoying question under the sun

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Firstly - I was invited along by DTP, they wanted to engage with rail enthusiasts, and I am on a list (allegedly)

The team expressed a willingness this train mockup may go on display in future, but not for extended public comment, they're wrapping that up now

These trains will replace all Comengs on the Upfield and Craigeburn lines, and some will work the Frankston line as well

Up to 100 X'trap 2.0s can be ordered, and DTP's preference appears to be ordering more of these to replace the Comeng instead of more HCMT trains

SEATS:

They're pretty damn thin, and narrow, and leg room is not great. That leaves a wide aisle, but I can tell people will be complaining about this for a long time to come

Yes the seats are indeed ripped off the VLocity, and honestly they're pretty good supports

We've got a lot of room for wheelchairs inside with flip up seating in cars 1 and 2. They have a semi-automatic wheelchair ramp fitted that looks good

Only room for about 4 bikes per train, it appears DTP still do not really want people taking bikes on rail services

FRONT:

Perhaps the most divisive part in gunzel circles. It looks better in real life to be honest, and it will change slightly to prevent train surfing, but it's gonna look like this

I don't think it's too uglo anymore, it'll look better on the network for sure

SCREENS:

3 centre screens and 5 or so side displays per car. Same software as the HCMT, they look great and modernise the feel a lot

NERD STUFF:

I can confirm these will have airbag suspension, similar to the HCMT, not springs (a relief to many I'm sure)

Also they will sound the same as the Perth C-series, couldn't get confirmation on the what the horns will be, nor internal speakers at this stage

The door buttons do depress, but they are not clicky like "buttons". Improved from the HCMT for sure

The doors that are external are "like in Hong Kong" whatever that means

Couple of drivers follow me - so here's the cab. Looks high tech but I'm not gonna pretend to know anything about that!

Honestly my biggest gripe here is this destination display is terrible - no other way to describe it. Needs to be a higher res LED in white at minimum, but it seems it will actually be fixed in this size. That's a real shame

Finally here's a carriage layout overview. The train can handle about 1,200 people inside, all 6 car units

There's more documents online if you want to read from DTP too dtp.vic.gov.au/our-transport-…

At the end of the day - the X'trap 2.0 is going to be a great train, everything you'd want is here. They look great inside (maybe outside too) and you'll love being a passenger

What Alstom and DTP have done is high class, I'm looking forward to day one

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