Thread by @JSniperton

I generally don’t like drama. But when they hurt my community and friends I gotta say something.

@TheLostDrake, please stop and grow the right way like so many others are trying to.

I know it’s tough right now, but it’s not worth it.

Just for clarification. “My community” means the Destiny / Twitch Community. I genuinely don’t care if / how it could affect my numbers.

But when I look in the directory & see friends getting bumped down because of this, I get fed up.

More proof:

For those saying his views come from "site embeds on his website". Let's do a quick comparison.

@thelostdrake's website got 3,900 views in June. Yet averaged 447 viewers in that span.

@whereisxur_'s site got 650,000 views in June & averaged 637 viewers

Views vs. CCV. When someone has 400-600 CCV (Concurrent Viewers), their "views" for that stream should be quite high. Here we see in a 9 hour stream there were 1,900 views and an average of over 600CCV.

Comparable CCV streamers would have 10x the views (20K+), also the viewer graph is indicative of viewer manipulation because of the immediate spike and sustain over the course of the entire stream. Organic streams are more gradual over time.

Additionally, the consistent follower spikes are manipulated as well. There are also streams where there are spikes in followers and then they fall off when Twitch removes bot accounts.

Twitch stopped tracking channel views on 3rd party sites about a year ago. And it was shortly after when CCV spiked by 3-4x almost instantly. You can also see how views to follows are unregulated in their relation to each other.

Similar spikes and patterns going all the way back to 2019. This is not what organic growth looks like. And it has been happening over many years. I have to give him credit in the patience to do this over time in order to make it look credible.

Here is an example of real, organic numbers from his channel. It shows what his CCV and numbers would look like if they weren't being manipulated. How does this happen? Perhaps the viewbot software was down for that day.

And an example of viewbots falling off mid stream and leaving an average of ~20 for the rest of the duration.

They also have been doing many many sponsored streams as of late with a CCV of 400-600. That's thousands & potentially tens of thousands of dollars being taken from companies unfairly.

It sets a bad precedent for streamers & says that you can profit from manipulating statistics.

The narrative of "I'm not hurting anyone" is dangerous since this in fact does take away from other streamers not just in viewership, but companies need to be more careful what rates they give creators because someone could be manipulating numbers.

Ultimately, you can believe what you want. But I have been getting MANY DMs about this person and their behavior in the past, and that they have no remorse for what they are doing. So, I chose to post this info to prove that what I said is in fact true.

And for folks I blocked due to harassment, I hope you see the truth before it's too late, because a lot of good people have gotten hurt financially and emotionally in the process of all of this, and that just makes me sad.

And for anyone saying that I'm doing this because I've "fallen off". Even with my complete schedule change after 7 years, taking time to help with family stuff and streaming less over the summer, I'd STILL have a much higher REAL concurrent viewership than him.

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