Mega Thread
“The global child trafficking industry may be yielding $20 to $50 billion or more per year. No one knows for sure. An estimated 1.2 million children are trafficked globally every year. One investigator calls the child pornography industry “very tempting” with lots of “sales to be made.” For example, in 2013, Germany estimated some 250,000 Germans spent $27 billion U.S. dollars on child pornography. Twenty-seven billion in just one year, by a quarter of a million people”
-From the book Epidemic by Lori Handrahan
I just wanted to include that quote because no matter how much many of you will roll your eyes at the phrase "Pizzagate" because of the way the media has derided it, at its core its about child exploitation on a worldwide scale, regardless of whether or not this particular story is true.
If Pizzagate did anything good, its that it brought attention to a mass audience, the fact that stories like this are indeed real and it's much worse than the average person can fathom. At the end of this mega thread I am going to link to some stories you may have missed to acquaint you with the reality of this subject.
All you have to do is google Pizzagate, read
the articles on the first 10 pages of results, and you'll find that 99% of them are the same one sided narrative that says it’s a hoax perpetrated by "alt-right 4Chan Conspiracy Theorists". The censorship around it became intense at the time and much of the story was memory holed after the shooting but if you know where to look, the internet never forgets.
Here how it was and still is mocked by the compliant media worldwide, who couldn't be bothered to lift a finger to investigate any of the claims:
Then all of a sudden it was put to bed when a man from North Carolina opened fire at the establishment at the center of the controversy Comet Ping Pong.
Before I continue I want to be clear, I am just reporting on information I have come across, I am not involved with this and everything I have reported can be found publicly. I just feel that it is information that has been suppressed or ignored and that people have a right to know about it. People also have a right to draw their own conclusions.
News outlets jumped all over the shooting incidence, immediately characterizing it as proof that “conspiracy theories”, “Hoaxes” and “Fake News” can turn lethal. It is still pointed to as evidence of how dangerous disinformation can be.
Ostensibly, this event did the trick and confirmed the beliefs of MSM and their viewers that Pizzagate was an absolutely insane conspiracy theory propagated by alt-right Trump supporters in order to smear the Clintons.
Immediately following this event every tech company felt as if they had the license to start taking down anything related to "Pizzagate". Entire websites and Youtube channels were taken down. In hindsight this event feels like the start of when the modern "censorship industrial complex" as we know it went operational.
The thing I found odd about the shooting was that it disappeared from the news as quickly as it entered it and not many details were provided about Edgar Maddison Welch, the guy who did it. Eventually he was sentenced to 4 years which he served and today he is currently a free man.
Some interesting details emerge when you look into who Edgar is, the events that day and his background.
On December 4th we were told he opened fire with an assault rifle while inside of the restaurant.
However one day later on December 5th a CNN article quotes a witness that the gun is identified as a shotgun. The witness could just be mistaken and not familiar with firearms so it isn't the biggest deal. Although they are visually distinctly different from each other, I’m not so sure I buy that.
amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/12/04…
According to the police report he had three firearms total.
Some Background on Edgar and his father.
As is It turns out the Edgar Maddison Welch is an IMDB credited actor who has worked on films produced by his father Harry Welch Jr.
m.imdb.com/name/nm2625901/
His father Harry Welch runs a movie production company called Forever Young Productions that employed Edgar at one point. Interesting name.
foreveryoungproductions.com/home.htm
He produced a move called “Mermaid Treasure”
Being quite the renaissance man, Harry also served as Executive Director for Protect-A-Child, Inc.
linkedin.com/in/harrywelchjr
Ok so far Edgar is an actor his dad Harry has a rather benign if peculiar professional background but his history with law enforcement and the military is what peaked my interest.
Harry is also a highly skilled NRA firearms instructor who is recognized as an expert by the North Carolina Supreme Court.
According to his IMDB page:
“In 1988, President Ronald Reagan selected Edgar’s dad Harry to join 15 other broadcasters to visit US Military Installation in Colorado. They received national clearance from the US Defense Department to visit the Cheyenne Mountain Nuclear Bunker the alternate command center for NORAD. Harry worked on federal , state and local task forces fighting the war on drugs. He served five years with the Rowan County ABC police.”
No further explanation is given as to why he was invited.
m.imdb.com/name/nm2124178…
2 years later according to a section called “Business Experience” on his website Harry states:
“In 1990, I was invited by the US Defense Department to go to Europe and watch war games with joint forces of the US Army and our allies in West Germany.”
There is no further details but why a broadcaster and filmmaker would be invited by the DoD to Europe to watch war games but it is certainly notable. This information can be found on his website I linked to above.
Then I came across a section labeled “trivia” where he states he was trained in firearms by Col. Rex Applegate.
Who is that you ask? Here is an excerpt from his Wikipedia.
“In 1941, Applegate was developing armed and unarmed close quarter combat courses for the US Army at Camp Ritchie when he was recruited by Wild Bill Donovan for the OSS, specifically to build and run what was called "The School for Spies and Assassins", the location of which is now Camp David.”
For those who may not be aware the OSS or Office of Strategic Services was the precursor to none other than the CIA.
Here is how there Wikipedia page describes them:
“The Office of Strategic Services (OSS) was the intelligence agency of the United States during World War II. The OSS was formed as an agency of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS)[3] to coordinate espionage activities behind enemy lines for all branches of the United States Armed Forces. Other OSS functions included the use of propaganda, subversion, and post-war planning.”
Col. Applegate is considered the father of modern close quarters combat and also served as President Roosevelts personal bodyguard and wrote several books on combat including “Kill or Get Killed”.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of…
Here is a short video about him. He is one of the men teaching the troops who is wearing a mask.
So Harry Welch Jr. the shooter Edgar’s father was trained to shoot by the guy who trained spies and assassins for the OSS. I haven’t seen anyone else report on this information.
Ok back to Edgar.
In October 2016, one month before the shooting Edgar struck a teenager with his car going 45 mph sending him to the hospital with head, torso and leg injuries.
wbtv.com/story/33467722…
I looked and could not find the police report and it is still unclear if he was ever charged. If anyone can find one please send it my way. It seems unlikely considering he turned up in DC a month later welding an assault rifle. This is pure speculation but perhaps Daddy has connections? Or some sort of deal was struck?
A old profile of Edgar’s was found online that says he lived in Haiti at one point, which may be related to his father’s work with Protect-A-Child Inc who had operations in Haiti but this is also just speculation and I could not track down the source of the screenshot so take this with a grain of salt. I just found it an odd place to have lived for a kid from North Carolina.
While in the restaurant Welch fired a single shot, supposedly trying to access a locked door and apparently that shot made its way through a metal lock, through the door, and then into to a computer tower that that housed Comet Ping Pongs server, destroying it.
This was confirmed by owner Alefantis himself during a segment on Fox News. Watch.
You may be asking yourself, “ok so what? The guy is a nut who fired a shot in a restaurant.”
Well the aspect of this story that has went mostly unreported is that in late November 2016 a hacker who goes by the name of “BigFish” contacted YouTuber Titus Frost who had been covering the PizzaGate story to inform him that he had accessed what he says was Comet Ping Pong’s server after hearing the accusations online.washingtonian.com/2016/12/05/com…
He said he wanted to use Titus Frosts YouTube channel to tell his story to the world and explain to people what he found hidden on the comet pizza servers, as well as what happened to his life after he reported it to law enforcement. The interview is still online and you can listen for yourself here.
bitchute.com/video/HTRewHDO…
What he says he found was a back door hidden on the “Comet Ping Pong Website”, a heavily encrypted password protected area that you would not find for a regular pizza parlour. During the interview he says that he works with a group of other hackers as well.
BigFish said he couldn’t access everything from the comet pizza server as it was too heavily protected. However, he was able to access a section on Comets website and downloaded the zip files.
He said he found a way into these files and found direct evidence of illicit underage material and other horrific content. He explains there was images, videos and a shopping cart option which was operating using blockchain technology.
In late November he said he tried several times to
contact Washington DC police department and
explain to a supervisor of the evidence he found on Comets servers.
He explains that none of the police
were interested in what he had to say and
kept on transferring his calls to different
departments. In the end Washington DC Police
said they did not want to open up any type of
investigation.
After having no luck with the Washington DC
Police Department, he decided to contact the
FBI. He told the FBI the full story, they took
notes but didn’t say too much about it, again this was in late November 2016.
After BigFish reported this to the FBI he says he
started getting gang stalked. One night his son woke him up and told him a man was outside, he ran downstairs and the man jumped into his car and drove away, he then noticed his truck had been smashed to pieces.
On another occasion he said people would sit outside his house in a parked car, he said he lives in a cul-de-sac so he knows everyone on his street and that vehicle was not familiar.
Finally, the scariest thing that happened, he
explains one morning he was woke up by
police sirens outside his house and a man was
being wrestled to the ground by police in his
bushes.
The man was dressed in all black and
wearing a ski mask but luckily a member of
the public had noticed him creeping around
his house, called the cops and they took off.
1 week after he provided evidence of everything he had copied from the servers to the FBI the shooting at Comet Ping Pong happened.
When he heard about the shooting on TV, the next day he contacted the Washington Police once again, this time they seemed very interested in what he had to say.
A detective named Marcus Stevens was very
interested and asked if the BigFish would
send what information he could via email.
BigFish explained to Marcus that law
enforcement needed to go down to Comet Ping Pong and confront the owner about what was discovered on his servers, that had just been destroyed by a bullet mind you.
A Detective Marcus Stevens agreed and according to BigFish seemed like he really wanted to
investigate this, BigFish received a confirmation email from Marcus stating he had received his email explaining what information he could. He was in communication with detective Marcus Stevens for the following 2 weeks. This is the email provided.
Titus Frost the YouTuber who interviewed BigFish also reached out to Detective Stevens and provided evidence that BigFish gave to him, what type of evidence, I don’t know, this is based on what he said. This is a screenshot from one of his videos I found that he says was communication between the two.
I confirmed that there is actually a Marcus Stevens working for the DC Police department. I found this police awards document and he was listed on it.
And just to be sure because that document was from 2005 I also found this, a court case from 2019 that clearly confirms he exists.
dockets.justia.com/docket/circuit…
In the end detective Marcus Stevens stopped
communicating with BigFish and he never
heard from him again. He believes detective
Stevens was a good man who had his
investigation shut down from higher up.
Finally you know how I mentioned that he had discovered a server in Berlin as well? Take a wild guess who co-owned a restaurant in Berlin called Nalu Diner that has since been closed?
mrporter.com/en-us/journal/…
The very same owner of Comet Ping Pong, James Alefantis. In fact it was just a short walk from a place called Dr. Pong that was affiliated with Comet Ping Pong.
Here he is recommending Dr. Pong in a magazine interview. Interesting choice of picture for the article.
And here are some screenshots that were taken from Dr. Pongs website. Very wholesome stuff because you know little babies play ping pong.
I have proved nothing in this thread, like I said I am just presenting additional information and context around the story that is “Pizzagate”. The connection to Col. Applegate via Harry Welch is an interesting turn of events and I haven’t seen that reported anywhere else. The man helped create the CIA and train their assassins so his presence in this story however tangentially is of interest. The fact that a single bullet shot through that door and destroyed the hard dive is also questionable. Especially in light of what the hacker claimed was on that hard drive.
The real question is whether or not the Hacker BigFish’s story is true. I have listened to that full interview and frankly am not sure what to make of it. I’d be interested in hearing others opinion of it. Any other information on this angle is welcome.
Whatever you may think of the Pizzagate story there is more to this story than it being just an “alt-right 4chan hoax”. Wait until you see the images from instagram posts by the owner and employees that were scrubbed from the web in the wake of this story breaking. The fact that such effort was undertaken to remove these images and others, that just a week prior were publicly available may make one think there may very well be something they are trying to hide. Could it be that if one were to follow the yellow brick road, those posts link back to some very powerful and prominent people?
There is a staggering problem with child exploitation within governments, I haven’t even scratched the surface. There are scandals that barely made the light of day worldwide, some so depraved it would turn your stomach. Google “Marc Dutroux Scandal” and travel down that true crime rabbit hole. Until light is shined on these unfathomable crimes, darkness will be allowed to get away with it.
Especially when it is those who hold power committing them. It is this apathy and denialism that is exploited by those who would commit these crimes. It is time to recognize the reality of the world we live in, evil exists whether you believe it or not.
If you are still incredulous about all of this, have a look at some of these stories to get a sense of the scope of this problem within government alone. Again these are just a drop in a bucket compared to the scale of this.
cbsnews.com/news/former-cy…
“A former federal cyber security chief was convicted Tuesday on several charges related to accessing and distributing child pornography. Timothy DeFoggi, 56, was acting director of cyber security at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services when he was detained in May 2013 as part of an investigation targeting three child pornography websites.”
“He used the site to access and solicit child pornography, "and exchanged private messages with other members where he expressed an interest in the violent rape and murder of children," according to the DOJ.”
“In 2006, the deputy press secretary for the Department of Homeland Security was arrested for trying to seduce online someone he thought was a teenage girl. Four years later, the Securities and Exchange Commission found that 17 of 31 employees caught accessing porn at work since 2008 — one for up to eight hours a day — were senior staff.”
“In 2010, the Boston Globe reported that senior Pentagon staff were downloading child porn. Instead of generating a media storm, the story died. Senior staff were watching the sexual torture of small children on Pentagon computers, and Americans were not outraged?”
washingtontimes.com/news/2012/aug/…
“A monk from Riverside and an Australian man looking to buy a 6-year-old boy were among 238 people arrested during a two-month operation targeting child predators in Southern California, officials said Monday.”
“Among those arrested during sweeps in April and May were entertainers, community leaders, white-collar professionals and clergy members, said John Reynolds, acting special agent in charge for U.S. Department of Homeland Security Investigations.”latimes.com/local/lanow/la…
“Mangione would also go online under the aliases BookStoreMomNC and Oldrmom111, graphically detailing fantasies of child abuse and forcing 'her' daughters to engage in depraved sex acts.”
“His double life was first discovered when federal agents busted a former school bus driver in Delaware.”dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2…
“Previously, he had served as special assistant to President Ronald Reagan and deputy press secretary for foreign affairs from 1986 to 1989, among other posts during a long career in Washington.” washingtonpost.com/local/crime/fo…
“According to a criminal complaint filed in Indiana in May 2012, federal and state investigators became aware of an individual trading images of child pornography online in September 2010. An extensive investigation into that individual led to the arrest of a defendant in Illinois in January 2012. Upon arrest, a forensic search of that defendant’s computer equipment and email accounts allegedly revealed that he had been actively trading the explicit materials online with numerous other people.”
justice.gov/opa/pr/former-…
For a complete list of military personnel that has been caught with CP read this excellent post:
lorihandrahan2.medium.com/the-military-a…
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