(🧵) Response to @AbuKittenTweets and his excuses defending the position of the flat earth t.co/SKxwHP9Hbl
The Ibn Hazm quote provides no evidence that the earliest Islamic scholars believed the earth was also round. Along with the Ibn Baz thing, he is insignificant when it comes to the earliest scholars.
In order to dive deep into this topic, we have to discuss the verse of 18:86.
Al-Hussein b. Al-Junaid <– Sayd b. Salamah <– Ismail b. Aliyah <– Uthman bin Hader: I heard Abdullah b. Abbas saying: Muawiyah recited this verse, and he said {warm spring} and Ibn Abbas said: it is {muddy spring}. He said: So they sent to Ka’b Al-Ahbar and asked him. Ka’b said:
As for the sun, it disappears in ‘Thatin’. which matched what Ibn Abbas said, and the word tha’at means “mud”
We can provide translations later. I am assuming the Muslim apologist I am responding to can read Arabic. So I will just provide the scans
(Tabari again)
Source he is from Ketab Al Azmaa from the Muslim website called Shamela. shamela.ws/book/13043/972…
Another source: shamela.ws/book/13043/106…
Tafsir Muqatil Sulayman says it. shamela.ws/book/23614/161…
More from Tabari:
We can go on and on with the lexical geography here, but the standard view after the evidence would be from Tafsir Tusi, it is literal. altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tM…
Abu Mohamad Al Qatani
Abu Ali Bin Osama Al Makki, fifth century is estimated, presumed. ebook.univeyes.com/162905
Abu Hayyan proves our point once more when asked about the word expanse in Quran 71:79.
The Thalabi MSS:
Qahir Al Baghdadi:
Makki Ibn Al Talib’s Tafsir.
Conclusion: Abu Kittenis incorrect and he contradicts his scholars, and I hope to see a response by him.
Note: Ibn Hazm and Razi taking a more scientific viewpoint does not refute this, but only shows the minority believe this.
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