Thread by @XX_1133_1221_11

Mobilecoin (Sentz) & Signal (Open Whisper System)

A thread of the many connections between Mobilecoin, Signal, X, cypherpunks, crypto/ AI founders, intelligence affiliates, PayPal Mafia and more

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Mobilecoin
Stellar (SDF)
Signal
Stripe
Cypherpunks
X (Twitter)
Elon/ Snowden
Israel/ 8200 Unit
PayPal Mafia
WhatsApp
Intelligence
Long Now
DuckDuckGo
Google
Cash App
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Mobilecoin & Signal
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Mobilecoin was founded by Joshua Moldboard and Shane Glenn. Mobilecoin was rebranded to Sentz (I will still call it Mobilecoin throughout this thread for simplicity)

Mobilecoin has many connections to cypherpunks, crypto leaders, and transhumanists, including many of its’ funders and advocates.

Mobilecoin leadership, staff and members include (Notable names):

David A. Bray > Singularity University with Barney Pell, government positions
Bob Lee > Founded Cash App
Sarah Novotny > Microsft, Linux
Moxie Marlinspike > Signal founder, former X (Twitter) Security leader
Isis Lovecruft > Cypherpunk and crypto member
Renee DiResta > CIA, Stanford, Yonder, Mozilla, Thiel Fellow, PayPal mafia associate
Alex Gravely > Cypherpunk member, Github Dropbox
Brady Forrest > Microsot, Khosla Ventures (Stripe funder), Singularity, Foo Camp with Joichu Ito)

Mobilecoin investors (notable names):

Future Ventures > Steve Jurvetson (Close Elon Musk investor, DFJ)
Binance
General Catalyst > Stripe, Oscar Health, Anduril, Circle, Cadre (Close ties to Kushners and Thiel circles)
Coinbase
Alameda Research > Sam Bankman Fried/ FTX
Matt Mullenweg > Stellar advisor
10X Capital > Ripple, Palantir, Circle, 23&Me
Time Ventures > Marc Benioff (Elon/ Thiel circle)
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MobileCoin secured $29.7 million in a funding round led by Binance Labs, in exchange for 37.5 million tokens

Mobilecoin is a member of Long Now Foundation. (More on Long Now Foundation later in this thread)

Mobilecoin & Signal
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Mobilecoin and Stellar

Mobilecoin was developed using the Stellar Consensus Protocol, created by David Mazieres. Although SCP is not the same as the Stellar Network itself, Mobilecoin does use the Stellar blockchain and its’ consensus model (BFT).

Matt Mullenweg, a funder of Mobilecoin, also is an advisor of Stellar.

Several investors and crypto leaders with connections to Mobilecoin also have close ties with either Stripe, Stellar, or both.

Mobilecoin & Signal
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Mobilecoin, Signal and X (Twitter)

Matthew Rosenfeld, AKA Moxie Marlinspike, is an American entrepreneur, cryptographer, and computer security researcher. Marlinspike is the creator of Signal, co-founder of the Signal Technology Foundation, and served as the first CEO of Signal Messenger LLC. He is also a co-author of the Signal Protocol encryption used by Signal, WhatsApp, Google Messages, Facebook Messenger, and Skype

Whisper Systems was an American enterprise mobile security company that was co-founded by security researcher Moxie Marlinspike and roboticist Stuart Anderson in 2010. The company was acquired by Twitter in November 2011. Some of the company's software products were released under open-source licenses after the acquisition. An independent group called Open Whisper Systems later picked up the development of this open-source software, which led to the creation of the Signal Technology Foundation

Moxie Marlinspike is also former head of security at Twitter, until he left in 2013 to form Open Whisper Systems.

After a merger with Moxie’s former programs TextSecure and RedPhone, Open Whisper Systems changed to Signal.

Early 2018, Marlinspike and WhatsApp co-founder Brian Acton announced the formation of the Signal Technology Foundation and its subsidiary, Signal Messenger LLC. Marlinspike served as Signal Messenger's first CEO until stepping down on January 10, 2022.

Moxie Marlinspike is also an advisor for Mobilecoin, and has been claimed to be names as first CTO of Mobilecoin in the original Whitepaper (although has been both confirmed and denied by several sources within Mobilecoin).

Signal and Mobilecoin created a partnership to use Mobilecoin for the Signal app’s financial transactions, since it was focused on both mobile payments and highly encrypted security.

Other Signal/ Open Whisper System people relevant to this thread include:
Christine Corbett Moran
Andy Isaacson

Both Engineers and workers of Open Whisper Systems and Signal, with connections to: NASA, Chaos Computer Club (Cypherpunks), Noisebridge (Cypherpunks) +

Mobilecoin & Signal
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Mobilecoin, Signal and Cypherpunks (and early cryptographers)

Mobilecoin and Signal leadership has consisted of many well known cypherpunks and leading cryptographers, as well as known “anarchists” including Signal’s Moxie Marlinspike mentioned earlier in this thread.

Mobilecoin also has a direct relationship with Tor Project through the same cypherpunks and affiliations.

Those cypherpunks and cryptographers include:

Moxie Marlinspike
Edward Snowden
Elon Musk
Grimes (Elon’s ex)
Isis Lovecruft
Todd Huffman
Alex Gravely
Peter Todd
Bryce “Zooko” Wilcox
Jacob Appelbaum
Andy Isaacson
Christine Corbett Moran
Yan Zhu
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Chelsea Manning
Julian Assange

Moxie Marlinspike, mentioned earlier, is founder of Signal which partnered with Mobilecoin. Signal is endorsed heavily by both Elon Musk and Edward Snowden.

Edward Swoden, endorser of Signal (mobilecoin)

Elon Musk, endorser of Signal (mobilecoin)

Grimes (Elon’s ex) is good friends with Wikileaks whistleblower, Chelsea Manning. (Julian Assange) Also good friends of Sam Altman (Stellar and OpenAI)

Isis Lovecruft (Accused Peter Todd of sexual abuse) Mobilecoin consultant, Tor Project Developer, friend of Grimes, Manning, and several other cypherpunks mentined above

Todd Huffman advisor of Mobilecoin, positions at DARPA and DoD, friend of others mentioned above

Alex Gravely is engine of Mobilecoin, CEO and founder of Hackerpad with close ties to Stripe (Stellar), friends of many listed above

Peter Todd, accused of sexual abuse from Isis Lovecruft, Bitcoin developer, relationship to many listed above

Bryce “Zooko” Wilcox of ZCash, a company with similar funding as Mobilecoin, Advisor of Bolt Labs with initial funding from Ripple’s Xpring

Jacob Appelbaum, connections to X like Moxie Marlinspike, former Wikileaks leader with Assange, Tor Project leader, many relationships with those listed above, cypherpunks, cryptographers, transhumanists, and crypto leaders plus Collison brothers (Stripe, Stellar)

Andy Isaacson, Open Whisper System engineer (Signal), Chaos Computer Club with Jacob Appelbaum, cypherpunk associate

Christine Corbett Moran, Open Whisper System engineer (Signal), NASA, cypherpunk associate

Yan Zhu, friend of Wikileaks whistleblower Chelsea Manning, DoD, and witness against Jacob Appelbaum who she witness abusing several women in the workplace.

Mobilecoin & Signal
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Elon Musk, Snowden, Signal & Mobilecoin

Elon Musk has been an advocate for Signal for many years, tweeting about it often as a better (yet not perfect) solution to encrypted messaging. Snowden, NSA/ CIA whistleblower, also has come out in favor of Signal as a better solution to encrypted messaging and privacy.

Signal partnered with Mobilecoin (mentioned earlier in thread) because Mobilecoin was built off an encryption-based model, which happens to use Stellar Consensus Protocol. Stellar is funded by Stripe and has ties to both Stripe people and other cryptographers, AI founders like Sam Altman, Keith Rabois, Jed McCaleb and others.

Elon Musk has ties to both Sam Altman and Stripe, being that his platform X uses Stripe as a verification platform, now that he stopped using Israel-based AU10TIX.

Mobilecoin had its greatest price jump (over 500%) when it was announced that Elon’s X platform may use Signal’s protocol for encryption. Mobilecoin was already partnered with Signal at that time, giving reason for the sudden price jump in the token (MOB). In 2024, Elon also created a new part of X called “XPayments” where payments can be made on X (likely both fiat and crypto) directly through the app. This sets up Mobilecoin or Stellar as a likely candidate for integrating with XPayments.

Mobilecoin & Signal
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X, Signal and Israel

Mentioned in the last part of this thread (6), Elon changed his identity verification from an Israel-based company, AU10TIX, to Stripe.

X’s Senior Policy Domain Specialist is a former IDF (Israel Defense Forces) member and former Office of the Prime Minister of Israel associate, Michal Totchani, who Elon hired once he took over X in late 2022.

Signal Technology Foundation (Signal) has Israel connections through a company called Paragon.

Paragon, a Tel Aviv-based smartphone surveillance startup has direct relationship with Signal Technology Foundation.

Paragon Solutions doesn’t have a website. There’s very little information at all about them online. Co-founded by Ehud Schneorson, the former commander of Israel’s NSA equivalent, known as Unit 8200. The other cofounders - CEO Idan Nurick, CTO Igor Bogudlov and vice president of research Liad Avraham - are ex-Israeli intelligence too. Also on the board is cofounding director and former Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak. They also have a significant American financial backer: Boston, Massachusetts-based Battery Ventures.

Ehud Barak, former Prime Minister of Israel, was a close friend of Jeffrey Epstein, a Mossad agent and blackmailer. Ehud Barak and Epstein also co-funded an AI surveillance company called Carbyne, with other funding from Peter Thiel. It also happened to be first launched in Colorado, US where Thiel’s Palantir (AI) company is headquartered.

Paragon has been said to be Abel to crack both WhatsApp and Signal encryption, while providing Israel with that information.

As mentioned, all founders and leaders of Paragon are tied to Israel intelligence, specifically Unit 8200, the NSA equivalent for Israel. Edward Snowden, an endorser of Signal, also warned how Unit 8200 received raw, unfiltered data on many US citizens as part of an “agreement” with the NSA. He also mentioned that the NSA and FBI are “aware” of Signal’s potential and encryption capabilities, possibly hinting at the likelihood it is not entirely secure, at least not from intelligence agencies, including that of Israel.

Unit 8200 specializes in encryption and decryption, specializing in signal intelligence, or SIGNET. Unit 8200 also has a “Central Collection Unit” referred to as “Israel SIGNET National Unit” (ISNU)

Mobilecoin & Signal
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Peter Thiel, WhatsApp, Signal and Israel

As mentioned in the previous part of this thread (7), Israel has an agreement with the US NSA to receive “raw, unfiltered data on US citizens” through the Unit 8200 (SIGNET division). Also mentioned earlier, Paragon is used to hack WhatsApp and Signal, likely with US approval, to give information back to Israel as part of their agreement.

Peter Thiel funded a company called Boldend, a spyware company marketing itself as an American competitor to the Israel NSO Group that does business with Raytheon. Boldened targeted and hacked WhatsApp, bypassing their encryption security. It appears the company is used to target companies for “cyber warfare” specifically.

Ron Gula, CEO of Boldend, founded Tenable Network Security, which is backed by In-Q-Tel, the CIA investment branch that also funds Thiel’s Palantir AI spyware company.

Both Boldend and Paragon are complicit in “hacking” WhatsApp and Signal encryption, relaying that data back to Israel’s SIGNET/ 8200 Unit (subset of IDF and Mossad).

However, both companies appear to be targeting these messaging apps with permission from NSA (US government) to allow Israel to use and decrypt the data.

In 2020, Jared Kushner was criticized for using WhatsApp to relay communications during COVID to his teams, conducting government related business through the app. This was made public when it was found WhatsApp is less secure than originally thought and they suffered a “hack” by the Thiel funded Boldend company.

As mentioned, Peter Thiel also has funding in the former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak/ Jeffrey Epstein Israeli AI spyware company, Carbyne.

Peter Thiel is now an outed FBI informant, perhaps collecting data and information for the FBI and intelligence agencies for many years, or being blackmailed by the intelligence agencies to “hack” these private companies on their behalf, to reduce exposure and liability for the US government.

Mobilecoin & Signal
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PayPal Mafia and Signal/ Stripe

Signal was awarded the “Levchin Prize for real-world cryptography” by Max Levchin in 2017. Max Levchin is former PayPal mafia leader and founder of Affirm. Levchin praised Signal’s encryption protocol and said he uses it “every 10 seconds”.

Max Levchin is also a Series A funder of Stripe, a partner of X (Twitter) and Stellar funder. Max Levchin co-founded a security company called Confinity that created “PayPal” program, that was turned into “X .com” in 2000, before the name was changed to PayPal in 2001 and Elon was pushed out and replaced with Peter Thiel.

PayPal Mafia, including Levchin, Thiel and Musk, are all tied to Stripe through early funding. Stripe is a competitor to PayPal, with a modern approach to adding crypto and social media upgrades recently. PayPal has even created their own stablecoin (PYUSD). Stripe likely will stay with Stellar (XLM) or use Circle (USDC) which has a close relationship with Stellar as a rail.

Mobilecoin & Signal
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Mobilecoin and Long Now Foundation

Mentioned in the beginning of this thread, Mobilecoin was the first member of Long Now Foundation, a group of technology futurists.

Long Now Foundation staff includes:

John Brockman > Edge Foundation, Epstein and Joichu Ito freind
Patrick Collison > Stripe co-founder, Stellar funder
Alexander Rose > Mobilecoin
Zander Rose > Mobilecoin
Renee Węgrzyn > DARPA
Esther Dyson > Epstein and Barney Pell friend
Danny Hillis > MIT Media Lab
Violet Blue > Jacob Appelbaum accuser, Cypherpunk relations
Paul Saffo > Singularity with Barney Pell, David Bray (Mobilecoin)
George Church > Epstein donor for several businesses, mostly biotech co’s

Peter Thiel is the leading funder, along with some funding from Jeff Bezos, of Long Now Foundation.

Many people part of Long Now Foundation are also members of Edge Foundation, a transhumanist advocacy group created by and funded by Jeffrey Epstein and Peter Thiel.

Long Now Foundation also inspired Github’s Arctic Archive

Github is founded by Nat Friedman, who has many ties to cypherpunks and crypto leaders. Github is also funded by and tied to Thrive Capital (Kushner VC), Sequoia Capital, Andreessen Horowitz, Daniel Gross (IDF/ OpenAI), Microsoft, OpenAI +

Mobilecoin & Signal
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Signal has close connections to DuckDuckGo and US intelligence agencies

Signal was co-founded by Moxie Marlinspike and Brian Acton.

Brian Acton founded WhatsApp and DuckDuckGo.
Earlier in this thread, it was mentioned that both Signal and WhatsApp could be “hacked” by Israel intelligence through the telecom company Paragon. The NSA has an agreement with 8200 Unit (Israel Mossad/ IDF) that allows Israel to receive raw data on US citizens, including through both Signal and WhatsApp.

DuckDuckGo, a company owned by Brian Acton that was created to compete with Google as a search engine that does not share or sell data, has funding from Thrive Ventures (Kushner VC) and Scott and Cyan Banister of PayPal mafia

Freedom of the Press Foundation made donations to Open Whisper System. FOTPF has donors that include: DuckDuckGo, Open Society (Soros), Mozilla Foundation

Mozilla staff include: Stellar CEO Denelle Dixon, Interledger Protocol CTO Alex Lakatos, Reid Hoffman of PayPal Mafia, Renee DiResta of Mobilecoin/ CIA, Joichi Ito of MIT Media Labs and Epstein close friend + other leaders in crypto and AI.

DuckDuckGo donated at least $25,000 to The Tor Project, a network with a group of volunteer-operated servers that allows people to improve their privacy and security on the Internet. Some of the leading people involved with Tor Project are also apart of Mobilecoin and have worked with or for the US government agencies such as NSA, CIA, DARPA and DoD, including Jacob Appelbaum and Isis Lovecruft. Tor Project has direct donations/ funding from the US DoD, DARPA and State Department.

Glen Greenwald is a board member of Freedom of the Press Foundation (FOTPF). Glen Greenwald was also the reporter who Edward Snowden gave his information to while rejecting from the NSA/ CIA when he went rouge with classified information. Glen Greenwald helped him travel, remain under the radar, and made the information public. Edward Snowden was his source for his books as well.

Glen Greenwald is also founding editor of The Intercept, which received its’ funding from Building a Stronger Future Foundation of $500,000 which came from Sam-Bankman Fried of FTX, now convicted of fraud, money laundering and bribery.

Mobilecoin & Signal
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Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, and even Donald Trump, have made critical remarks about Google in the last couple years, more so recently than ever.

DuckDuckGo is a competitor of Google, being a search engine that does not sell information or data, unlike Google. Google also is a large “too big to fail” conglomerate (Alphabet).

Donald Trump has been asked, and has considered the idea of, breaking up big tech companies like Google that are taking over the market space making it hard to compete fairly in the US.

Peter Thiel has criticized Google of being controlled by Chinese influences, essentially bending the knee to the CCP.

Elon Musk has said that Google sensors and shares misinformation that only suites the far-left, manipulating people’s perception of honest information. (Similar to what Thiel claims without placing direct blame on China)

Both Trump and Musk claimed that Google likely manipulated the 2020 election as well.

DuckDuckGo, like Signal, has the idea of not selling data of its’ users. This is what appeals the people like Musk, Snowden, Thiel, and Trump. Also, DuckDuckGo and Signal have direct ties to the same founder, Brian Acton who helped start both companies, along with the help of several others like Moxie Marlinspike.

Mobilecoin & Signal
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Bob Lee is the co-founder of Cash App with Jack Dorsey and was Chief Product Officer at Mobilecoin. Bob Lee was stabbed to death in April 2023.

He was also a software engineer at Google, and CTO of Block (Square), a company started by Jack Dorsey.

Jack Dorsey was the previous owner and founder of Twitter before selling to Elon Musk.

Bob Lee was invested in Elon Musk’s SpaceX and Figma.

Bob Lee was friends with Steve Jurvetson, who also funds Elon’s SpaceX as well as several other of Elon’s companies, as well as Mobilecoin where Bob Lee was CPO.

Figma lead investor, Nat Friedman, has ties to many cypherpunks, being apart of the Computer Chaos Club as well, who many have worked with Mobilecoin and/ or Signal. Nat Friedman is also a board member of Stripe, and investment partner of Alameda Research (funder of Mobilecoin). Figma has funding from Founders Fund (Thiel) as well. The CEO of Figma, Dylan Fields, is also a Thiel Fellow.

Bob Lee was said to be on a major drug-filled binge week, causing him to attack the person who is on trial for murdering him, making it a self-defense case rather than murder. Bob Lee and his accuser’s sister have been to many sex, drugs and swinger parties together.