Eventually I will prejudge a book wrongly and feel very chastened but I keep spinning that wheel!
Oh, weird. Because the data has been available since the election but this seems to say the working class broke for Trump and that’s how he got elected
I have been just on the edge of my damn seat since Hillbilly Elegy came out for another Yale Law person to explain the working class to me tho srsly
Chua: did her research watching early 90s CMT videos
Like go back and look at the last line and consider that this is on page three of the book and tell me that @Blackamazon was not right to tell me this was the next book because come on now
But what would I know; tacky is decided and declared by the wealthy. One assumes Chua wrote with self-awareness.
1. That’s not patriotism, that’s nationalism
2. LOLOL BUDWEISER IS NOT THE BEER OF THE WORKING CLASSES WHAT THE SHIT LADY
So Amy Chua, who wrote that tiger mother book some time ago, is a Yale Law professor. She’s also JD Vance’s mentor, or one of them.
Anyway that’s us caught up!
But damn here is this paragraph anyway, in case you needed a fine example of polemic argumentation which somehow passes no tests of veracity.
But man it takes a rich person to spot a real thing that happens and then just fundamentally fail to grasp power structures while explaining how poor works
“Couldn’t be both imperialistic racism and also a firm belief in a disproven domestic meritocracy, could it Bob?”
Anyway you’re welcome @tomtomorrow I didn’t write this book but I did just save you a whole plotline having read it
2. There’s pizza, thank everything that’s holy
3. We’re about to watch a really interesting thing happen in this book.
Back in like 10. I need to read ahead a bit and see what this first chapter is.
Step One: position yourself as an inclusive “us” to the out-group’s “them.” Don’t do it openly, use inclusive language.
Unasked and unanswered so far: what the author thinks “identity politics” means outside the inference of race
How do I share a publishing house with this book even
One super-minor difference. I SAID SUPER MINOR.
Of course I have never taught at Yale Law. Gave a lecture there once, but not TAUGHT. So maybe I don’t get it.
Because it seems to be, and bear with me here because I'm not 100% following
And this of course is why Muslims in the UK aren't assimilating, according to Clive Crook
Like the entire whole universe brain here
Yeah, no, I'm not gonna last long enough to give this chapter the attention it deserves because it is actually a feat. Of something. Not sure what.
To catch you up, in the introduction we watched the author use a few rationales we assume she doesn't know are favorites of fucking Nazis!
See, there's a reasonable argument in the first chapters.
OK so how do you rise to the level of teaching at fucking Yale and you’re writing a book about literally anything political and you don’t know that a PM isn’t directly elected
Like OK but you do realize that we’re one of few major powers in the entire world that aren’t in a parliamentary system right
Because like you wouldn’t hear someone say they were African-Japanese
I'll be back tonight or not depending on how well this whole "rural internet" thing goes
Please do meditate on your assumption that anyone just "has internet" to learn on
Like I can't upload a pic. Tell me again how easy "being informed" is though?
This is used as an argument for the immutability of ethnocentrism. Which would be fine if it didn’t have a pretty specific recent example of mutability?
Which makes it a weird example to use to bolster a thesis.
Ireland too, but there wasn’t a shitty movie about that, or at least not one I’ve been forced to see, so IDK
I go for Clive Crook every time.
To begin with.
If you ever find yourself making the same point as Nigel Farage, run.
No mention about how that’s actually kind of really parallel to America or how it might be any different
Y’all might too because that’s what’s coming next.
Much is made of birthright citizenship as a thing setting the US apart among nations.
Keep this chart in mind as we venture into the next section, which is a wild ride!
Here’s a fun stat about how Protestants are underrepresented at Harvard even though at no point do we learn about whether the data controlled for age, given how the elderly are religious but not usually undergrads!
Like we have apocalypse warning sheets
Oh, did you think just normal not-white supremacist American folk were still bothered by the Pope existing? Because they’re not.
That’s some fucking Nazi shit.
Also why does everyone assume that white people uniformly resent things like hip hop or a really good tikka masala?
I just don’t think they excuse most of what they’re clearly there to make up for.
Imagine writing this paragraph
Even though we’re the supergroup
And that’s the end of chapter one!
Can’t wait to see what this has to do with Vietnam.
OTOH we also learned that the Welsh don't like being called Brits, which. Fair.
Even babies get in on this!
Because remember we’re talking ethnicity here not race
-Amy Chua, paraphrasing Donald Horowitz
And the second is...yeah you go ahead and find the 1. Lie or 2. Coherent thesis
What had happened was, you see, we didn’t understand the MARKETS.
Here’s a sentence in print:
I've never read an argument for ethnic supremacy which was largely stated from the ostensible position of "racism is bad" before
Like I think she's doing analysis from Yale Law and she's legit not separated white privilege from other sorts, to the point she doesn't know she's saying Nazi shit
Tonight we learned that the US frequently invades places without fully understanding them
Not sure how this explains the resentment of Trump voters but I’m sure we’ll get there in the end
I’m sure we will learn things then too
To catch you up:
Also other countries just can’t democracy like we can because ethnic
Not that we didn’t have a clear mission
Not that we engaged in mission creep on a grand scale
Not that we didn’t need to fucking be there at all.
One assumes Amy Chua has never heard of Charlie Wilson
The Taliban, I promise you, was not created because the US invaded and didn’t quite understand who the Pashtuns hated most.
workers or working-class people, regarded collectively
Given that Chua thinks there aren’t working class people in Afghanistan I’m not gonna reproduce it here because I’m not a regional expert to the point I could parse it
So apparently she does know about Charlie Wilson?
Because here is the Taliban being created in 1996!
There is little to no analysis of any other part of the war in Afghanistan or its justification. It’s just “anyway lots of history there we don’t know really”
On the one hand I can’t begrudge it to her because LOL OBVIOUSLY WE DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE ETHNIC CONFLICT THERE
The problem in Iraq, you see, the problem, it was that we compared it to the wrong things
Again not that we didn’t need to invade the place to begin with
Not that we had no defined goals
Not that we just sort of occupied the place for no reason
It’s just we don’t know ethnicity
There’s no room here for the possibility that we understood and didn’t give a shit because it’d make us money
At no point in this writing has there been any acknowledgment that while we certainly mucked things up further being western-centrist idiots, it’s wholly possible that that was a feature not a flaw.
Did you think that was accidental instead of our actual strategy, of arming everyone and waiting to see who lived at the end and then doing deals with them
Huh I wonder why we might do that
Anyway coincidentally people make billions every year in this war
So I have more idea than most civilians about that war.
You bet your ass I got real familiar with ethnic and sectarian strongholds in the region while he was gone.
And it’s possible that y’all are gonna have to bear with me while I read someone explaining that actually, the problem was we didn’t understand when the problem is WE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THERE
I will tell you this, and so will my man who went over there in the uniform of the USMC: that was bullshit. Top to bottom. None of that was fucking necessary.
There was nothing that justified that. Nothing.
When I showed him my video from August 2014 he told me that was more of a war zone than he’d ever seen.
So now you know that.
What absolute inherent American bullshit this is
What goddamned world this is being written in I don’t know but apparently we’re here now
But what do you mean “success”
what’s your metric here
The fuck is going on here with this thesis
Other nights I’m reliving some shit and I’m realizing that I’m not getting paid nearly enough for all this. So I always do appreciate those of you who make that gap up
So far we have learned that America is really good at invading places, less good at knowing much about the places we invaded
So we can war better, you see