He started by claiming victory, then whining he didn’t get to present all his “evidence” and now to personal attacks against me.
I’ll re-extend the offer I made during the debate and expand it…
STOP whining and present evidence HERE.
I’ll look at this evidence & respond by showing my reasoning on the Proof of the Day.
Everyone can watch & make up their own mind.
I don’t most Q believers to be moved as I demolish proof after proof.
I’m not afraid. I’m busy.
So if you think you have an especially conclusive proof, talk to @NemoV8 and suggest it.
1 / day. Bring it.
1) After my research talking to Q believers, I do not think Q is just harmless fun. It’s obvious to me that intentional deception that is fostering a cult-like mindset, causing disunity among Trump supporters, & spreading lies.
3) Part of his victimization is that they FEEL like Q has been good for them.
5) My response is unquestionably true — people in cults ALWAYS think the cult is good for them. They ALWAYS extol the benefits.
I focus on METHOD and trying to apply common rules of logic to analyze Q.
They focus on mere EVIDENCE, with no regard for method.
I see many Q followers do “research” (by which they mean they use a search engine) in search of material to reinforce their belief in Q.
This becomes their evidence or proof.
But their method of analysis are shockingly slopppy & un-logical.
Instead, there may be no correlation at all.
Many Q ‘proofs’ involve zero real analysis. None.
So, let me lay out the METHOD I apply to all claims, not just ones about Q.
None of this SHOULD be controversial.
If there is no proof even OFFERED, there’s no reason to consider. Case closed.
“I believe X!
“Where’s your proof?”
“Don’t have any.”
Does that make X FALSE?
Maybe not, but you have no reason to believe it.
Well, easy to start — no proof is no proof.
When I’ve asked some Q people to prove that Trump met Kim in November 2017, they admit there is NO proof.
So...I’m done at that point.
Next, if they offer SOME proof you look it.
Can’t verify? Done!
“Q predicted the Pope would change the Lord’s Prayer before it happened!”
(They provide a link, so our first hurdle is passed. We have SOMETHING but...)
“Hey, what prediction?”
Q believers point to a post where Q quoted the entire Lord’s Prayer.
But does it prove the claim?
No, on two counts.
First, it’s NOT a prediction. A prediction is “You watch, the pope is fixing to change this prayer!” Etc.
Ask yourself — what is the real underlying claim here?
Q believers are trying to prove that Q is connected to Donald Trump.
So how does the Lord’s Prayer connect Q to Trump?
If there’s 1) no evidence for a claim and 2) the evidence EVEN IF TRUE doesn’t actually prove the claim...
...then the rules of logic say you can go no further.
Many Q followers don’t get this.
- Is it accurate?
For instance, have you double checked time stamps? Taken time zone in account? Are you looking at screen cap or real tweet? Is it the real account? Etc etc.
This process is not for the dishonest.
You need to be looking to DISPROVE the evidence in other to prove it.
You need to think like your SMARTEST critic.
This is what I call shallow or faux-research.
Most people don’t try to DISPROVE the evidence; they want to confirm what they found is true.
Good researchers check. And then check again. And again and again.
They aren’t “wrong.”
They aren’t even actual proof of ANYTHING because there is no evidence, it’s not relevant or the basics don’t past muster. (Fake, wrong date, etc)
Most often it’s correlation without proving causation or something that “seems weird” but doesn’t mean anything logically.
Well, no. You’ve just proved to ME that you don’t understand research or logic.
It’s like on American Idol when someone auditions and is AWFUl. Horrible in every way but they think they are great.
And then they want to try ANOTHER song.
Are you convinced? Did you learn anything?
I can’t care.
It’s not even I DON’T care. It’s that there are a LOT of people on Twitter and I’m not going to convince everyone.
So, think what you want.
It’s hard work. It requires honesty. Sometimes you lose audience.
But: it’s what I do.