I almost hate to do this, because I agree with a great deal of what .@drawandstrike writes, but in this thread, he’s dead wrong. threadreaderapp.com/thread/1028979… He bases his theory off of this article, which is also dead wrong: realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2018/…
Here’s why they’re wrong. The completely miss the Browder connection because they have bought into Browder’s lies. Bill Browder is not a white knight battling Russian corruption. He IS Russian corruption.
My followers know that I’ve written extensively about Browder, exposing him for the crook, liar and scammer that he is. But a brief refresher course is in order to demonstrate why the theory that the Trump Tower meeting was a setup is dead wrong.
Browder learned his evil craft under the tutelage of a British scammer. He then moved his business to Russia, where he proceeded to devise schemes to buy Gazprom shares illegally and tax avoidance schemes to maximize his profits.
When he was on the verge of being arrest for tax fraud by Russian authorities, he escaped from Russia, taking all his profits with him. Ever since then he has spun tale of Russian corruption to cover up his crimes. All of this I have documented in several threads.
This is the first thread I wrote on Browder. threadreaderapp.com/thread/9979378…
And here’s a more recent one: threadreaderapp.com/thread/1024398…
Now, to understand how this ties in the the Trump Tower meeting, you have to know about Browder, because he’s the impetus behind the USA v. Prevezon case. And what is that?
That’s a case where the US accused a Russian company of laundering the proceeds of the $230 million theft of Russian tax dollars that Browder claims was stolen by Russian authorities. (It’s a complete lie, but he’s been quite successful at selling the lie.)
How does Prevezon tie into the Trump Tower meeting? The owner of Prevezon, Denis Katsyv hired a Russian lawyer named Natalia Veselnitskaya to represent him in the case. She then engaged a US law firm, Baker Hostetler, to do a lot of the work in New York, where the case was tried.
And Baker Hostetler hired Bruce Simpson of Fusion GPS to do financial background research on Bill Browder, because that’s what Fusion GPS specializes in. You will recall that that was the same reason that Fusion GPS was hired by Clinton; to do financial research on Trump.
So, Veselnitskaya is tied to Bruce Simpson via the Prevezon case, NOT by the Russian collusion matter. Now, let’s look specifically at the article that @drawandstrike refers to in his thread and see where they got things horribly wrong.
“At the center of it all was Fusion GPS, which had two clients whose interests were served by the Trump Tower meeting: the Russians and the Clinton campaign.”
This is actually false. Simpson’s client in the Prevezon case was Baker Hostetler, not Veselnitskaya, and not the Russians, whatever that means. (It seems with all this brouhaha, that if you’ve even traveled to Russia, you’re in cahoots with “the Russians”.)
Oh sure, you could say, by extension, that it was the Russians, but it wasn’t Russians who hired him, it wasn’t Russians who tasked him, and it wasn’t Russians who paid him. He worked directly for Baker Hostetler.
Is it more than a coincidence that he also worked on the Steele dossier? No, it’s not. His business is all about investigating financial shenanigans, particularly when there are ties to Russia. It’s perfectly logical that he would have been hired by Baker Hostetler.
And it’s equally logical that he would have been hired by the Perkins Coie to do research on Trump’s financial activity, including in Russia. Holy crap! The guy can multitask! He can actually work for two clients at the same time.
“Nonetheless, Simpson also testified that he had no knowledge of the meeting with Donald Trump Jr. and others until it was reported a year later. There is reason to doubt that account.”
Despite that clear statement by Simpson, and despite the fact that there is no reason to doubt his account, they’re going to try to interject doubt anyway. Because a conspiracy is always better than pure coincidence.
“In fact, the Russian lawyer at the center of the meeting, Natalia Veselnitskaya, was his client.” Except that she never hired him and knew nothing about him. She was his client only in the sense that he did work for the firm she hired to assist her.
“She has publicly stated that she used talking points developed by Simpson for the Russian government in that discussion. Kremlin officials also posted the allegations on the Prosecutor General’s website, and shared them with visiting U.S. congressional delegations.”
And the talking points were? Take a look at the Russian prosecutor’s site they refer to: eng.genproc.gov.ru/smi/internatio… It’s all about Bill Browder and his illegal activity, NOT Trump and NOT Clinton. You see, Veselnitskaya is all about exposing Browder’s crimes.
Why? Because it helps her client. And the Russian government is interested in what she does and the result of her case because it might help them finally bring Browder to justice. Whenever you look at people’s motivations, the most obvious ones are usually the driving ones.
Exposing Browder helps Veselnitskaya in representing her client, Denis Katsyv, and helps Russia, because they want his lies exposed so the world will allow him to be extradited and serve his nine year sentence. There’s nothing evil or corrupt about that.
“In addition, Simpson has testified that he had dinner with Veselnitskaya the night before the meeting and the night after.” Well, not exactly. Both he and Veselnitskaya have testified under oath that they ate in the same place the night before the meeting.
There’s a perfectly logical reason for that. Veselnitskaya flew into New York the evening before, because she had a court hearing the next morning. She, Simpson, and several others met at dinner that night to discuss the case. Here’s their testimony: judiciary.senate.gov/press/releases…
Simpson: “Well, the first one was just an obligatory client dinner which, you know, when you work on a legal case you get invited to dinner with the clients. The one in D.C. was more of a social thing. It wasn't -- she was at it, but it wasn't really
about the case. It was just a bunch of Mark Cymrot's friends.” (Page 117)
So, the dinners were arranged by Baker Hostetler lawyers, and Simpson and Veselnitskaya were both there. But did they talk? “..she doesn't really speak English and I don't speak Russian. So not a lot of
Now, it’s entirely possible that Simpson is lying, even under oath. So, what did Veselnitskaya say about the same dinners?
“Did you have contact with Glenn Simpson on June 8, 9, or 10, 2016? If so, please describe the contact.
No, there had been no contacts with him on specified dates.”
Now, you can look at that two ways. Either she’s lying, in which case she’s jeopardizing her livelihood by lying under oath, or she doesn’t even recall Simpson being there at the dinners OR IN COURT. This might give us a clue as to how inconsequential Simpson was in her world.
“Accompanying Veselnitskaya to the meeting was Russian-American lobbyist Rinat Akhmetshin, who had served in the Soviet Union’s military counterintelligence service.”
This lie gets repeated constantly by the media. He is not and never has been a Russian counterintelligence agent. Let’s look at his testimony.
“Q. Do you currently or have you ever worked as an intelligence officer or agent with the Russian Government or former Soviet Union, including as part of the GRU, or with any security agencies in the former Soviet Union?
A. No, ma'am.”
”I never worked for — never worked or work
no, for an intelligence agency, never got that training. I was an army sergeant, army officer.” (By this I think he means non-commissioned officer, which is what we call our sergeants - NCOs.) Page 223
He goes on to testify that he worked for a support unit that supported a counterintelligence unit. This is quite common in the military. Action units need support units; to provide security, to handle provisioning, to cook, perform medical services, communications services, etc.
“His role remains unclear, but evidence suggests he may have been the source Simpson was alluding to in December 2016 when Ohr recorded that Simpson told him, “Much of the collection about the Trump campaign ties to Russia comes from a former
Russian intelligence officer (? not entirely clear) who lives in the U.S.”
First, Akhmetshin was NOT an intelligence officer. Second, this is pure guesswork, nothing more, and it’s based upon a false assumption.
‘Veselnitskaya hired Simpson in spring 2014 for work that lasted, according to Simpson’s Senate testimony, until “mid to late 2016.”’
As you have seen, that’s not really true. Baker Hostetler hired Simpson, just like Perkins Coie did. Veselnitskaya was only tangentially involved and didn’t even recall meeting with Simpson.
“Simpson, sources told RealClearInvestigations, was tasked with running a smear campaign against the driving force behind those sanctions, Chicago-born financier William Browder, who had employed Magnitsky.”
See how the truth has become “a smear campaign”? That’s how effective Browder has been in his campaign to paint Russia. So you can understand how twisted this is, let me explain what Browder did.
Russia has a law that prohibits foreign investors from buy shares in Gazprom at face value. They have to pay a premium. Obviously, the intent of the law is to discourage foreign investment in a major Russian gas producer.
Browder set up companies in Russia, owned by shell companies he had setup in Cyprus, so that the shares of Gazprom he purchased would appear to be Russian owned. By doing this, he avoided paying the premium, but he also broke the law.
He also setup companies in Kalmikiya, a Russian province, to take advantage of a tax law there. By “hiring” disabled Russians (more than 50% of the employees), he reduced his tax bill to 5%, saving him a fortune in taxes. The problem is, the employees were on paper only.
Browder’s Kalmikiya companies were found guilty of tax evasion and assessed $40 million in back taxes plus penalties. He cleaned out their bank accounts and bankrupted the companies to avoid paying the tax bill. He was later found guilty of tax evasion & sentenced to nine years.
“Although the Trump campaign agreed to meet Veselnitskaya to receive dirt on Clinton, she succeeded in turning the meeting’s focus instead to the Magnitsky Act and Browder – including Simpson-generated claims accusing Browder of tax evasion and embezzlement.”
The “dirt” on Clinton was the fact that the Ziff brothers donated $400,000 of their ill-gotten gains from Browder’s schemes to the Clintons. That was the hook that Veselnitskaya used to convince Trump Jr. to meet with him. It had nothing to do with Clinton emails.
“A lingering mystery of the Trump Tower meeting is the man who helped arrange it, British music publicist Rob Goldstone. On June 3, he emailed Donald Trump Jr. with an offer originating in a meeting in the office of the prosecutor general—Veslenitskaya’s point
of contact with the Kremlin. Goldstone promised “official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father."
This is completely wrong. The meeting didn’t originate with the Russian prosecutors office. Veselnitskaya approached Aras Agalarov, because his son, Emin, had a relationship with Trump through Goldstone. Goldstone was Emin’s promoter. He had worked with Trump in the past.
So, Veselnitskaya asked Aras to ask his son, Emin, to ask his promoter, Bob Goldstone to approach Trump about a meeting where she would offer Trump some “dirt” on the Clintons - the Ziff brothers dirty Russian money donations to her campaign.
This is TOTALLY different from all the rest of the attempted approaches, where emails were supposedly offered, ostensibly the ones that were “hacked” from the DNC server. Yes, it’s complicated.
Everybody conflates the two because they don’t look in enough detail to see what’s going on. As I’ve said in the past, Browder is the source of much evil, and has confused the issue with regard to Russian collusion.
‘The specificity of the phrasing in  Goldstone’s email appears designed to establish the case for collusion: “This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.”’
Guess who gave Goldstone that wording? No one. He’s a promoter. He made it up.
Page 106 “Q. So this was untrue?
A. Looking at it now, yes.”
Ya think? Goldstone blew this whole thing WAY out of proportion from what he was told. You know who the “Crown prosecutor” that Goldstone referred to was? Veselnitskaya.
Veselnitskaya is the one who approached Agalarov. At one time, she was a Crown prosecutor. So, Goldstone made it appear that this was an official request from the Russian government when it was nothing of the kind. But what do you expect?
Goldstone is a promoter. Exaggeration is his stock in trade. Let’s look at his email.
“Emin just called-and asked me to contact you with something very interesting.
The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate
Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father. This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump • helped along by Aras and Emln.”
The official documents he refers to? Those are the court records documenting Browder’s scams and convictions for tax evasion.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. The Trump Tower meeting was not a setup. For the Clinton campaign it was a happy coincidence. Simpson and Veselnitskaya did not meet before and after the Trump Tower meeting. They both attended client dinners hosted by Baker Hostetler.
They never even spoke to each other. Simpson never knew about the Trump Tower meeting until he read it in the media. In fact, even Akhmetshin didn’t even know about the meeting until he, Natalia and Anatoli Samochornov (her translator) went to lunch after court.
You can read more about the meeting here: txantimedia.com/?p=2576
“The purpose of the meeting,” one congressional investigator told RCI, “was to substantiate the Clinton-funded dossier alleging that Trump was taking dirt on his rivals from the Russians.”
Nope. The Congressional investigator is wrong. But why should that surprise you? They believe Browder so much they passed the Magnitsky Act.
Addendum: In the exhibits that Veselnitskaya provided to the Congress, she covers the Magnitsky fraud in great detail. If you’re interested, this is the link: judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/…
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