Thread by @BenWlv

So, mainly for my own sanity, here are a few thoughts to get off my chest about the whole ‘gender debate’. This might be a long thread so please feel free to scroll on by if it’s not for you. So, here goes:

Not to mention the women that will just retreat and not use facilities at all. Is this OK? My friends’ teenage daughters that don’t dare drink anything at school because they hate using the gender neutral toilets. Is this OK?

Then there’s SEXual orientation (clue there). Attraction is based on sex, not gender. The idea that it’s wrong for people to choose partners on the basis of sex is doomed to eventual failure too. In practice it’s usually homophobic AF too so, seriously, please stop doing that

My own view is women should not have to cede a single fucking millimetre of ground, when it comes to their rights. Women’s rights still need moving forward, not backward. It is outrageous that this is even being proposed in the first place

I think this is men’s problem. We’re why there are single sex spaces in the first place. We’re why some transwomen don’t feel safe in men’s spaces. Yet we are not being asked to give up anything, change anything – not even the way we think. NOTHING.

There needs to be another way, and it’s going to have to come out of men’s resources. Whether its third spaces, ‘open’ sports events etc I don’t know. But we need to talk about it. Calmly and rationally. Mainly, we need to fix why men are a threat to both women and transwomen

There IS a conflict of rights and this has to be addressed. If you want to help with that, then great. But if you’re just going to shout that women need to shut up, be kind and just put up with this shit then you are a big part of the problem.

I still think we can get to a solution. But, and I can’t believe this needs saying, it must acknowledge reality. It needs to accept that trans rights cannot just trample over women’s rights. Denying reality cannot work in the long term. It will eventually crash and burn

There is no hate here. No one is trying to erase anyone. We all want to be kind, considerate and compassionate. We need to talk. Accepting biological reality is the first step. Seriously: let’s just talk

@CEB1980 @juleandtheholos Oh, blocked. What a shame