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🇰🇪🚉Aight #KOT, listen up! It's time for some train lessons. I'm sick and tired of people like @johnnjenga regurgitating bad/false information about Chinese made railways/locomotives/rolling stock in Africa as part of their debate over whether #Kenya got a bad deal on the #SGR.
@johnnjenga I'm not here to argue that Kenya got value for $ with the SGR or if it's being run properly or not. I'm here to say - stop using invalid points in this debate when you haven't researched. Ya'll look foolish otherwise. Comparing photos of bullet trains with rail yard shunters.🤦🏼‍♂️
@johnnjenga But, but.. high-speed rail in China! The four biggest networks in the world are USA 250,000 km, China 121,000 km, Russia 85,500 km, India 65,000 km. Of these 4, only China (29,000 km) & Russia (1,326 km) have HS railways. HS rail is for passenger service. SGR is freight focused.
@johnnjenga But, but.. electric! The USA does not have electric freight rail at all. India has 31,200 km of electric line out of 65,000 km. China has 87,000 km out of 121,000 km. Most of Russia runs on electric. Remember, the Kenya Standard Gauge Railway at its max will be 3,800 km.
@johnnjenga But what about Ethiopia? They got an electric rail! So? Does Kenya have a Nile River? Does Kenya produce excess power? Does Kenya have enough cheap reliable electricity to even provide for potential foreign direct investment in manufacturing? NO.
@johnnjenga But what about the environment?! Diesel is bad!! Africans deserve only the latest electric styles that the rest of the world is using! No and no. There is a lot of electric rail in the world, but the biggest network in the world (USA) is still diesel-electric.
@johnnjenga Steel wheels rolling on steel track (no matter the power source) is exponentially more efficient than rubber tires on asphalt. Also, the SGR is already effectively electric. Diesel engines generate electricity for the electric motors that turn the wheels.…
@johnnjenga If you're concerned about the environment, don't put the cart before the horse. Get freight off the roads and on to rail. Start emissions testing and enforcement for all vehicles.
@johnnjenga But, but.. China is dumping their used/refurbished trains on Kenya! Or, they are selling us new trains, but old technology they no longer use! This is an utterly rubbish and false point of view. Also, is it dumping just because Kenya can't afford the latest technology? No.
@johnnjenga Let's talk about the rail equipment and its manufacturer: CRRC is the biggest manufacturer of rolling stock in the world by far. They have several manufacturing facilities in the USA, making rolling stock for the Boston Metro among other things.
@johnnjenga Contrary to popular perception, the SGR isn't using outdated equipment. This perception might have come about because Wikipedia/other sources wrongly say that the CRRC DF11 is the passenger loco being used. It isn't. The DF11 was produced from 1992-2005 & still widely used in 🇨🇳.
@johnnjenga The passenger loco that the SGR uses is the CRRC Qishuyan DF11G, a totally different design than the DF11. It was introduced in 2004 and is in currently the main diesel-electric passenger loco used in China.…
@johnnjenga It's worth remembering - the technology behind locomotives has a much slower development curve compared to things sold to end use consumers and they aren't designed with a short life fashion life cycle like cars. Looks don't matter. A loco introduced in 2004 isn't out of date.
@johnnjenga The freight loco used by the SGR is the CRRC Qishuyan DF8B. Introduced in 1997 and still in production today. Over 700 have been made and are in use in China, Venezuela, Iran, Guinea, Jamaica, and Kenya.…
@johnnjenga The final SGR loco is the CRRC Qishuyan DF7G. Many #KOT use photos of it, alongside bullet trains as a comparison. Its used for shunting! 🤣🤦🏼‍♂️ Supposedly it looks "old", but its not. In current production since 2003, it's used in Cuba, Mongolia, and Kenya.…
@johnnjenga None of these locos are inappropriate for use in Africa, they aren't outdated, and they sure as hell aren't "dumped" product. They are entirely appropriate for the SGR. Did Kenya get a bad deal on the SGR? Is the SGR being managed correctly? Those are entirely different topics.
@threadreaderapp Critical debate & defense of one's position is officially dead in academia. And no- selling vehicles to aid agencies in South Sudan and high-speed rail transport are two industries that will never impact each other. 🤦🏼‍♂️😂
I retract this assertion as several have pointed out that Kenya does produce excess power.
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