1/n #SadarPranam to “Ishwara”within u @acjoshi ji. I saw ur recent exchange with @madhukishwar & @TarekFatah .I’m sorry to say but arguments from u abt Hinduism,Bhagwad Gita & Hindutva seemed highly flawed + mediocre. I explain in string below. Don’t respond until n/n .
2/n Let’s first begin with, you disagreeing with what Madhu ma’am stated. She said: In this century of Lord Vishnu has come in avatar of Tarek Fateh. & then Ashish sir, u come with baseless argument (underlined in SS). Let me explain how you are wrong here. Read below:
3/n The shloka of context is:
यदा यदा हि धर्मस्य ग्लानिर्भव- ति भारत ।

अभ्युत्थान- मधर्मस्य तदात्मानं सृजाम्यहम्- ॥४-७॥

परित्राणाय- साधूनां विनाशाय च दुष्कृताम्- ।

धर्मसंस्था- पनार्थाय सम्भवामि युगे युगे ॥४-८॥

Translation for you sir, as you seem unaware of it (in image):
4/n @acjoshi did you notice the highlighted part in above image?
“.. तब तब मैंने खुद का सृजन किया, साधुओं के उद्धार और बुरे कर्म करने वालो के संहार के लिए..” Can you pl explain where Madhu ma’am was wrong? FYI Krishna says if he himself being “the destroyer” in BG. Read👇🏼
5/n @acjoshi read this

श्री भगवानुवाच

कालोऽस्मि लोकक्षयकृत्प्रवृद्धो
लोकान्समाहर्तुमिह प्रवृत्तः।
ऋतेऽपि त्वां न भविष्यन्ति सर्वे
येऽवस्थिताः प्रत्यनीकेषु योधाः।।11.32।।

Translation for you in image.
6/n Ashish sir, you are a civil servant & UPSC needs a perfect understanding of GS as well.I’m surprised that you didn’t know the above shloka (11.32) of Bhagwad Gita. It is really famous as Oppenheimer quoted it in regards to Trinity Project. Watch
7/n Sir, by this tweet you have really left yourself exposed big time. Let me explain how. I’ll pick the terms #Hinduism , #हिंदूधर्म & #Hindutva one by one. But before that let’s understand the root word “Hindu” as starter. Read on👇🏼
8/n Hindu is derived from the Sanskrit word Sindhu, which means "a large body of water", covering "river, ocean".It was used as the name of the Indus river and also referred to its tributaries.
9/n The actual term 'hindu' first occurs as "a Persian geographical term for the people who lived beyond the river Indus (Sanskrit: Sindhu)",more specifically in the 6th-century BCE inscription of Darius I.

Ref: Introduction to Hinduism by Gavin Flood,P 6.
10/n The 6th-century BCE inscription of Darius I mentions the province of Hi[n]dush, referring to northwestern India. The people of India were referred to as Hinduvān (Hindus) and hindavī was used as the adjective for Indian in the 8th century text Chachnama.
11/n Ref: On Hindu, Hindustān, Hinduism and Hindutva by Arvind Sharma & Numen
Vol. 49, No. 1 (2002), pp. 2-5

The term 'Hindu' in these ancient records is an ethno-geographical term & didn’t refer to a religion. There many such references.

Hence, HINDU~INDIAN (check SS).
12/n Now that I have taught you what “Hindu” means, let me sail you through historicity of word “Hinduism” which you seem to be so fond of.

“-ism” was first time added to “Hindu” around 1830.

Ref: Introduction to Hinduism by Gavin Flood,P 6.
13/n Ashish Sir, any idea about suffix “-ism”? Why was it used or when it became popular?

The first recorded usage of the suffix ism as a separate word in its own right was in 1680. By the 19th century it was being used by Thomas Carlyle to signify a pre-packaged ideology
14/n In the USA of the mid 19th century, the phrase "the isms" was used as a collective derogatory term to lump together the radical social reform movements of the day (such as slavery abolitionism, feminism, alcohol prohibitionism, Fourierism, pacifism, early socialism, etc).
15/n It was also added for various spiritual or religious movements considered non-mainstream by the standards of the time (such as Transcendentalism, spiritualism or "spirit rapping", Mormonism, the Oneida movement often accused of "free love", etc.)
16/n Do you know @acjoshi all the -isms were about unilateral philosophy or idea. But isn’t Hindu practice all about plurality? And as I explained you from 13/n-15/n, do you believe that “Hindu” idea is non-mainstream or just a radical social reform?
17/n Let me make it even simpler for you. Take example of 3 very common -isms. I have attached respective images as well.

Can you notice, that they come with so distinct appearance. it’s because of the unique philosophy embedded.
18/n And that’s where the problem comes while you add “-ism” to “Hindu”. You can’t limit it to singular idea hence in reality “Hinduism” is an oxymoron. Like we can’t ever say “Architecturism” though “Deconstructivism” is a type of architecture.
19/n Likewise you can have “Shaivism”, “Vaishnavism” but not “Hinduism”. But we accepted this oxymoron with time as it became popular. Brits never understood the pluralistic Hindu idea & ended up adding -ism as they thought it on par of “rigid” Abrahmic ideas.
20/n Did you ever wonder why “Islam” isn’t “Islamism” or “Christianity” not “Christianism”? But why do we have “Judaism” or “Hinduism”? You know, -ism was always added to practice which seemed inferior or not-mainstream.
21/n There is a thing called “Hindu Dharma” as you mention & is actually understood as “Sanatana Dharma”. If one understands -ism & believes in plurality of “Hindus” then Hinduism can never be “Hindu Dharma”. Hope, u get it @acjoshi sir.
22/n It seems that you are one of those who think “Religion” & “Dharma” are synonyms. Then let me explain.

Religion is institutions while Dharma is to strive to be right. Dharma tells to reject institution which shows wrong path.
23/n Dharma signifies behaviours that are considered to be in accord with rita, the order that makes life and universe possible and includes duties, rights,laws, conduct, virtues and “right way of living”. Eg, ‘Rajadharma’
means King’s Duty not Religion.
24/n For Bhartiya understanding, Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Buddhism, Islam, Christianity are various Panth which means denominations.

You have failed to understand the truth of the words and subscribed to myths as facts.
25/n @acjoshi sir, Shuprabhat. Let me summarise whatever I explained till 24/n b4 moving ahead

1)”Hindu”is a ethno-geographic connotation & not religious at all.

2)Hinduism is an oxymoron though we use it for popularity.Often addition of -ism degrades the great “Hindu-values”.
26/n You have been critical of #Hindutva a big time. Let me throw some light in it.

Hindutva is formed by adding -tva suffix (Pratyay) to Hindu. Now, what do you understand by -tva? In plain language adding -tva (ness) to a noun means :in state of being that noun. Eg. Naritva.
27/n The attached image will give better clarity of what -tva means.

So @acjoshi sir, can you please explain how the ‘state of being “Hindu(Indian” ‘ be wrong at all.

Who are we to interpret “Hindu” per comfort if Darius-I, the first one to use word had defined it other way.
28/n Is it so that someday in quest to interpret comfort you will “assign any meaning to any word”? Then what’s the rationale of “conventions” & “dictionary” if words are to be interpreted per choice? That’s not fair sir.
29/n It was the greatness of “state of being Hindu” hence “Hindutva” that a Hindu king helped build second Mosque of world near Cochin. Prophet MD was alive when that happened. Check about “Cheraman Mosque”.

Image1(old Cheraman Mosque)
30/n That was the period when Islam was spreading on the power of “sword” & “qital fi sabilillah” was common. The Parsis had to take refuge in Hindu Rashtra “Bharata”. They were persecuted the worst as Islam was set to conquer Persia.
31/n References for 30/n
1) iranicaonline.org/articles/parsi…
2 &3) Studies in Parsi history
byHodivala, Shahpurshah Hormasji, p 1-11 archive.org/details/studie…
4) Historia Religionum, Volume 2 Religions of the Present
By G. Widengren P212
32/n The persecution was falling like brick bats on the Parsis.

Ref: Zoroastrians: Their Religious Beliefs and Practices
By Mary Boyce P 147-50

You may read this book in more detail should you wish to understand.
33/n You may read more here to understand the blood soaked Islamisation of Persia. iranicaonline.org/articles/parsi…

@acjoshi ,I’m just trying to give you context of world around while the Hindu Rashtra “Bharat” was busy accommodating different religions.
34/n Ashish Sir, you want to talk about “mass-conversions”, though I can list out with references. I’ll chose to show you how strong was Hindu resistance to the Islamic Invasion. Why glorify invaders, let’s glorify the warriors. Read on👇🏼
35/n There is a reason we are still approx 80% Hindus despite force of marauding invaders. Read this thread to know how strongly we countered Invasions. While you are fond to spread facts of conversions, I’m fond of spreading words abt Hindu valour.
36/n You allege @TarekFatah of asking for dissolution of “India” & refer to this video

I’m sorry to say sir but by quoting this you have again exposed your flawed understanding of “Bharata”. Read👇🏼
37/n @TarekFatah is taking abt borderless Subcontinent. I’m sure you know what is “Akhanda Bharata”. That is what Tarek sir is referring to. You seem to be losing not only the context but how actually “Bharatkhanda” perceived as.
38/n @acjoshi sir, now let me tell you why I replied despite you asking questions to @TarekFatah sir.

If you notice carefully, I’ve very clinically shown how your questions were abysmal & lacked in fundamental understanding.
39/n How do you expect a “Hindu” not to respond when you malign “Dharma” just because of your flawed understanding? How can you be let to spread “fake” informations sir?
40/n If you so exclusively wanted answer from Tarek Sir, then why didn’t you DM him? Do you think that it’s a game of “cards” that we are playing around that you will not let anyone else call out your bluff, just because u thought it someone else’s chance to show the cards?
41/n As far as your idiom is concerned (highlighted) I must tell you: I didn’t write this thread to expect a reply from you. It’s not about “win” or “loss” for me, though it seems such for you. It’s all about sharing the knowledge, which I’may gain from you too.
N/n With above 41 tweets, I have my submission @acjoshi sir. You may respond in full capacity should you be able to counter me logically. I don’t carry any offence but can’t take in “rubbish” colonial feeds which only distort my identity. #SadarPranam
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