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Thread: Was Paul Manafort Leaking to Hillary?
[h/t @weaverpundit]

1. Rudy Giuliani canceled his widely reported trip to the Ukraine where he planned to reportedly ask the new Ukrainian president for help investigating Biden-related corruption. Why?
2. Who wants to bet Rudy never planned to take make this trip? Was this a stunt to drive a story into the news cycle? Let’s look at what he said regarding that canceled trip:

3. "I think I'm walking into a group of people that are enemies of the president, in some cases enemies of the United States, and in one case an already convicted person who has been found to be involved in assisting the Democrats with the 2016 election," ….
3A. … Giuliani said without clarifying to whom he was referring.
4. Giuliani added to Fox News on Friday that he won't go to Ukraine "in order to remove any political suggestion."
"I will step back and I'll just watch it unfold," he said.


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5. Democrats were apoplectic when he announced that trip to look into Biden’s affairs. Remember Democrats ALWAYS telegraph what/who they fear most by their actions. After this plays out, will it be shown that Rudy was referring to Paul Manafort (and Hillary)?
6. It is now known that Manafort was sharing the Trump campaign’s internal polling data and battleground strategy with a Ukrainian associate, Konstantin Kilimnik, who reportedly has ties to “Russian intelligence.”
7. Mueller has accused Manafort of lying about those interactions. Check this out:

8. Paul Manafort shared polling data on Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign with a Ukrainian associate who has ties to Russian intelligence, and also met with the colleague in Madrid while working on the presidential campaign, ….
8A. … according to a court filing from Manafort’s lawyers published Tuesday.
9. Manafort, the convicted former Trump campaign chairman, is accused of lying to special counsel Robert Mueller’s prosecutors about both of those interactions with the associate, Konstantin Kilimnik.
10. He also did not tell the truth about his meetings with Kilimnik “on more than one occasion” to discuss a Ukrainian peace plan.


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11. And interestingly, Rudy recently appeared to cover for Manafort.

12. The former Trump campaign chairman likely shared the data with Kilimnik because “he wanted to get paid,” Giuliani said, adding that Manafort had “a personal relationship with them, independent of the campaign.”
13. “Should he have done it? Absolutely not. Bad judgment? Yes. A crime? Sharing polling data? Give me a break. No way,” Giuliani said. “People give out that internal polling data to impress people.”
14. “They give it out for fundraising, just to have people on your side. They give it out to affect you guys in the press.”


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15. But was Rudy being sneaky? Was he holding something back for a later date? Is there more subtlety and misdirection involved, and is that what got the Democrats in an uproar?
16. Did you catch that reference to the Ukrainian “Peace Plan.” We’ve discussed this previously in our alternative theory threads on Gen Mike Flynn. You will recall that Michael Cohen and Felix Sater were also intimately involved in this process.
17. The Ukrainian “Peace Plan” appears important to unraveling Spygate. Here’s more…

18. The U.S. special counsel's probe into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election is focusing on a meeting between Donald Trump's then-campaign chairman and a business associate who prosecutors say has ties to Russian intelligence.
19. A court transcript unsealed on February 7 in Paul Manafort's criminal case says an August 2016 meeting between Manafort and Konstantin Kilimnik goes to the "larger view of what we think is going on" and what "we think the motive here is."
20. "This goes, I think, very much to the heart of what Special Counsel [Robert Mueller's] office is investigating," Andrew Weissmann, one of the prosecutors on Mueller's team, told the judge, according to a transcript of the hearing.
21. Much of the transcript was redacted, including portions relating to Kilimnik. In previous court documents, it was revealed that one of the topics discussed by Manafort and Kilimnik was a possible "Ukrainian peace plan."
22. The peace plan refers to the conflict that erupted in Ukraine in 2014, after President Viktor Yanukovych fled the country amid mass protests.
23. The United States and Western allies hit Russia with sanctions after Moscow annexed Ukraine's Crimea Peninsula, and Moscow had sought to ease the punitive measures.
24. According to court filings, the "peace plan" was reportedly aimed at lifting the US sanctions on Russia.
According to prosecutors, he & Kilimnik contacted potential witnesses in Mueller’s investigation, trying to tell them what to say if they were questioned - a federal crime
25. Kilimnik, who was indicted last year on charges of witness tampering in Manafort's case, has denied having ties to Russian spy agencies.


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26. [Side comment: In the near future, we will be returning to some of those Flynn alternative theories. Riddles wrapped in mysteries inside enigmas!]
27. Manafort’s firing from the Trump campaign came only two weeks after he shared the campaign information. Is this what led to his firing? Let’s see what was being reported at the time…

28. Manafort had increasingly come under fire over his past lobbying work for pro-Russian Ukrainian oligarchs — which was fundamentally at odds with Trump’s boasts about being free from moneyed interests — ….
28A. … and for the sloppy nature of the Republican National Convention, which Manafort oversaw.
29. In recent days, Manafort had lost the confidence of Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law and one of his closest advisers, and other members of Trump’s family, according to a source close to the campaign.
30. Kushner had once been a major backer of Manafort and was instrumental in his elevation — and the downfall of Corey Lewandowski, Trump's former campaign manager.
31. The family was particularly troubled by reports of Manafort's involvement with Russia and felt he hadn’t been entirely forthright about his activities overseas, the source said.
32. Family members were also unhappy about changes made to the GOP platform that were seen as beneficial to Russia, which they felt Manafort played a role in, the source added.
33. Manafort was also wary about his increasing scrutiny becoming a distraction, according to a senior Trump aide, echoing a point one of Trump’s sons acknowledged Friday.
34. “I think my father didn’t want to be, you know, distracted by, you know, whatever things Paul was dealing with,” Eric Trump said, according to an excerpt of an interview set to air on Fox News’ “Sunday Morning Futures.”
35. Eric Trump called Manafort’s work through the primary “amazing” and praised him for getting the campaign through the convention…
36. “But again, my father just didn’t want to have the distraction looming over the campaign and, quite frankly, looming over all the issues that Hillary’s facing right now.”


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37. (What were those changes made to the GOP platform at the RNC convention? Why? We’re looking at you, Carter Page…)
38. This next bit is slightly off-topic, but perhaps another window in to Manafort: speaking of the RNC convention, did someone set up Melania to be accused of plagiarizing Michelle Obama? Would Paul Manafort know anything about this?

39. Trump convention manager Paul Manafort responded to the controversy on CNN on Tuesday morning, saying "there is no cribbing of Michelle Obama's speech."
40. "These were common words and values, and she cares about her family," Manafort said. "To think that she would do something like that, knowing how scrutinized her speech was going to be last night, is just really absurd."

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41. Corey Lewandowski seems to finger Paul Manafort as the culprit.

42. Meanwhile, on CNN, Corey Lewandowski said that someone needs to be fired over the incident, which, coming from Lewandowski, probably means “someone associated with Paul Manafort needs to be fired over the incident”


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43. And more here…

44. At the Republican National Convention, when it was discovered that Trump's wife, Melania, had plagiarized portions of her speech, Lewandowski seized on the chance to poke at his old rival, saying on CNN “the buck stopped with me” when he ran the campaign.
45. “I think if it was Paul Manafort, he’d do the right thing and resign,” Lewandowski said.


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46. Okay, back to Rudy Giuliani’s cryptic reference. Is Konstantin Kilimnik the key to solving this riddle? Who is this guy communicating with?

47. Konstantin Kilimnik, who worked with Manafort for a decade on political campaigns in Ukraine, had “communications with former high-level State Dept officials,” Manafort att'y Kevin Downing said at a Feb. 4 court hearing. The significance of those communications wasn’t clear.
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49. More here:


To US diplomats in Washington and Kiev, he has been a well-known character for nearly a decade, developing a reputation as a broker of valuable information.
50. He travelled freely to the US, and on a trip in May 2016 met senior State Department officials for drinks. Later that year, he visited the new US ambassador to Ukraine in Kiev.


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51. “… met State Department officials for drinks”?

“… a broker of valuable information.”?


And here is the final nail: “He was excellent at tradecraft.”
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For more than two decades, Konstantin Kilimnik, known familiarly as Kostya and K.K., has worked for Americans, the bulk of his time with Manafort. During that entire period, he has been dogged by suspicions.
53. There were always hints that he might be serving another master, providing a set of surveilling eyes for Russian intelligence.
54. One of his former colleagues, Michael Getto, told me, “From my standpoint, I kept my distance from Kostya, because I knew there was a better-than-even chance that he was connected to people I didn’t want to be.”
55. These insinuations were never backed by more than a smattering of circumstantial evidence. They were never enough to deter State Department officials from grabbing the occasional gossipy drink with him— ….
55A. although one diplomat, casting a backwards glance over the course of his dealings with Kilimnik, told me, “He has excellent tradecraft.”


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56. Manafort has long had a shadowy reputation. He’s too slick to not hedge his bets. It’s clear Manafort was playing both sides. Manafort was passing Trump campaign secret to the Hillary camp. He was “with her”. After all, “she was never supposed to lose.”
57. One more thing is pretty clear to me: Manafort is never getting out of prison. What does this lesson portend for future revelations about Flynn, Page, and Pdops? Stay tuned! ///The end.
ADDENDUM: h/t to @ThunderB for providing an alternative opinion by nominating convicted serial bomber Brett Kimberlin who worked with Alexandra Chalupa.…
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