@LivvyFanon The USSR was an exporter of mining & fossil fuels. All Soviet style economies were bad for the environment. Even China & Cuba, which have taken steps recently (Cuba out of necessity due to being cut off) are structured this way.
@LivvyFanon The infrastructure, social, technological & physical, needed to run a centrally planned economy--let alone on a global scale--requires massive stocks of heavy capital, accumulated throughput, and enclosed natural resources.
@LivvyFanon What's more they contain fundamental incentives toward centralization, bureaucratization, stock accumulation, resource extraction, heavy capital accumulation, etc., away from light production & renewable methods, let alone on the scale we need globally.
@LivvyFanon The world currently OVER produces everything, it is a scale back of production, especially of throughput, below rates sufficient to replenish stocks, sicks & ecosystems, that is necessary, using non-extracted resources. A centrally planned economy literally *can't* do that.
@LivvyFanon What's amazing is that central planners themselves acknowledge this. Stalin admitted it but said it was a good thing. Kruschev tried to slacken in. Brezhnev tightened it. Gorbachevs' mistakes were entirely driven by trying to resolve this problem.
@LivvyFanon All of the Eastern Bloc suffered the same issues, as did the DPRK. China was spared somewhat by virtue of being literally so large, and so rural to begin with, they had to have a decentralized, service & education based industrialization.
@LivvyFanon Yet their market reforms were, again, motivated by these intrinsic problems. And they are still accumulating massive natural resource stocks, building such heavy capital projects it's causing earthquakes & constructing massive empty concrete cities.
@LivvyFanon Cuba, held up as the shining example, is an island economy, in an equatorial climate that never fully industrialized and was cut off from petroleum & agricultural imports and had to therefore rapidly improvise. yet now they import most food & oil again, some miracle.
@LivvyFanon Amazing, planning theorists, economists, historians, and so on from all the AES countries exist, their and their country's intelligence services all discuss these issues, you don't have to go to Western economists or w/e to discover them.
@LivvyFanon That said, there's a MASSIVE literature on the economic, technological, social, political & ecological history of AES, with incredibly good data. Much of this is written with praise, not criticism, so allegations of bias hardly suffice.
@LivvyFanon Here are a bunch of sources, some pro-, some anti-, from every conceivable theoretical framework and disciplines.
@LivvyFanon Oh wait here’s 3 more relevant ones
@LivvyFanon Those paying attention will notice I gave both theory and history, and books in favor of and against my thesis, bc I believe the evidence stands up either way.
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