"Anyone who says they didn't know is lying" leaves out how predators operate.

They pick people charm, flatter, be generous to and keep on side. Those people rarely see the abuse.

And those who are being abused see how tight they are with the abuser and tell them nothing.
They'll keep the older women on side while they prey on the younger women. They'll use those older women to keep the youngsters in line.

Predators are often excellent manipulators.

It's hard to believe someone who's been lovely to you is vile to others.

They depend on that.
So, yeah, sometimes folks really have no idea what their boss/spouse/agent/co-worker was doing even though "everyone knew".

It was essential to the predator's survival to keep them in the dark.
It's part of why many of us white folks find it hard to believe that some of our friends are racist.

They're smart enough to hide that shit from us.

Then BIPoC see us hanging out with racists and avoid us cause we obviously can't be trusted.
And, look, I heard all about many famous predators long before they were exposed. I mean if I heard about Ge*ffrey R*sh and Kevin Spacey surely everyone knew?

How could they not?

Upthread is how they could not.
It's the worst. Makes my skin crawl every time it happens.

Often the "everyone who knows" are in the group targeted by the predator, or have been warned, or are friends with the targets.

Meanwhile the folks who can protect a predator are busily being charmed by them.

Look at how Michael Jackson groomed the parents of his victims.
Yeah. They're always just joking. RED FLAG.

There's a horizontal axis of knowledge spreading out from those who've been targeted by the predator.

But the predator works hard to keep that knowledge from spreading on the upward vertical axis. The predator works overtime to have their peers and superiors on side.
All of that is in addition to how our overall culture has taught us not to believe women and children.

Just look out how many are convinced that there's a high rate of false reports of sexual assault. There is not.

There's a high rate of people NOT reporting sexual assault.
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