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Jun 19, 2019 7 tweets 2 min read Read on X
Time for another 25th Amendment § 4 thread (being that my book is now available for pre-order: tinyurl.com/y4r3xlhy). I'm seeing some tweets saying Trump wants acting secretaries in his Cabinet b/c they can't participate in a 25A4 vote. This is off-base for a few reasons. 1/7
First up, this wouldn't make sense as a presidential strategy. If acting secretaries can't vote to invoke 25A4, they also can't vote against invoking it. Without knowing how they'd vote, their non-participation is as likely to hurt Trump as it is to help him. 2/7
If the two current acting secretaries can't vote on 25A4, they aren't in the numerator but they also aren't in the denominator. In other words, if they can't vote, invoking 25A4 requires support of 7/13 from the confirmed Cabinet members instead of 8/15. No less doable. 3/7
If anything, presidents would want acting secretaries to be able to vote in 25A4 cases, because presidents can handpick acting secretaries and ensure their loyal presence more simply and directly than they can Senate-confirmed secretaries. 4/7
Finally, the very premise of the theory about Trump's supposed strategy is flawed. There is no basis to assume, as these tweeters have, that acting secretaries can't vote in 25A4 cases. The scholarly consensus for decades has been that they can vote. 5/7
In my book on 25A4 (tinyurl.com/y4r3xlhy) I call that consensus into question--it is, at best, uncertain whether acting secretaries can vote. But there are a lot of other reasons why 25A4 won't be used in the current situation. 6/7
25A4 isn't realistic now b/c the president can contest it. He has more than enough votes to win a 25A4 fight in Congress. To have any sort of chance against him, practically speaking, the Cabinet would need to be unanimous or close to it. Acting secretaries don't alter that. 7/7

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Jul 13, 2021
This gambit is just the latest example of why the statutory line of succession shouldn't include the Speaker.

This isn't a partisan issue; it'd be nuts to have a D Speaker in the line of succession of a R administration, and equally nuts w/ a D administration and R Speaker.

1/5
Scholar-commentators (including me) have been arguing for reform here for decades, consistently—regardless of which party was in power.

It makes no sense to have a line of succession that could change partisan control of the presidency like this in the middle of a term.

2/5
The old statute had the Sec'y of State next in line. The current law passed in 1947, favoring the Speaker b/c of a notion that it should be someone elected, not appointed.

But that rationale was demolished in 1967, when 25A2 provided for filling VP vacancies by appointment.

3/5
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Feb 14, 2021
My initial tally (subject to change) of the 43 acquitters' post-vote statements:

16 relied entirely on jurisdiction, w/o criticizing Trump (Barrasso, Blunt, Crapo, Daines, Ernst, Fischer, Inhofe, Lankford, Lummis, Marshall, Risch, Rounds, Rubio, Shelby, Tuberville, Wicker).

1/
4 said there was no jurisdiction but mentioned other objections, w/o criticizing Trump (Braun, Hyde-Smith, Kennedy, Sullivan).

3 said the trial was unconstitutional but were not specific, w/o criticizing Trump (Blackburn, Hagerty, R. Scott).

2/
2 rested on objections other than jurisdiction, w/o criticizing Trump (Graham, Young).

1 said the Senate could proceed but shouldn't have, and reached the merits, w/o criticizing Trump (Cruz) .

1 was unclear as to reasons, w/o criticizing Trump (Johnson).

3/
Read 9 tweets
Feb 12, 2021
Thread on late-impeachment related questions asked in the trial.

Q1. Given that some pre-1787 state constitutions provided expressly for late impeachment, does the Framers' failure to do so suggest they didn't mean to allow late impeachment?

1/
A1: No pre-1787 state constitutions expressly ruled out late impeachment. Some did later—using direct language.

The Framers ruled out *other* things using direct language.

Their silence here thus does not suggest an intent to rule out late impeachment.

2/
Q2: If disqualification is not derivative of removal, is it possible to disqualify a sitting president without removing him?

A2: No. Art. II, §4 requires removal of sitting officials, separate from anything Art. I, §3 says about DQ and removal.

(thread extended as needed)

3/
Read 8 tweets
Feb 8, 2021
Trump's brief cites my 2001 article on late impeachment a lot: int.nyt.com/data/documentt…

The article favored late impeachability, but it set out all the evidence I found on both sides--lots for them to use.

But in several places, they misrepresent what I wrote quite badly.

1/4
One odd thing they do is cite me citing other sources instead of just citing those sources (e.g., p.17 & n.47). Another more problematic thing: they suggest that I was endorsing an argument when what I actually did was note that argument--and reject it (e.g., p.21 n.57).

2/4
There are multiple examples of such flat-out misrepresentations. The worst is page 30. They write, "When a President is no longer in office, the objective of an impeachment ceases."79

N.79 starts: "Kalt at 66."

What I actually wrote on 66 (discussion continuing onto 67):

3/4
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Jan 9, 2021
I try to answer questions (25th amendment, impeachment, pardons) people tweet at me but this week I haven't been able to get to every one.

Here's an FAQ thread-of-threads. Some link my books for more detail, but obviously I'm happy to answer questions on Twitter for free.

1/5
25th AMENDMENT

* 25A4 flowchart:

* What happens if there are acting secretaries?

* If 25A4 isn't used now, what's it even for?

* Where is the bar set for things like this week?thehill.com/opinion/white-…

2/5
25A (cont.)

* Who is in charge while the president contests a 25A4 action?
The VP definitely is: theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/…

IMPEACHMENT

* How can people be impeached if they've already left office?
(links only)

3/5
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Jan 6, 2021
For the "amazing demographic shifts" files:

It looks likely* that of the president, VP, and all 17 people in the line of succession, not one will be a straight white male Protestant.

* Assumes nominees are confirmed and front-runners are picked for Commerce and Labor.

1/3
Biden (Catholic)
Harris (Black/South Asian female)
Pelosi (Catholic female)
Leahy (Catholic)
Blinken (Jewish)
Yellen (Jewish female)
Austin (Black)
Garland (Jewish)
Haaland (Native American Catholic female)
Vilsack (Catholic)
Commerce front-runner Raimondo (Catholic female)

2/3
Labor front-runners Walsh (Catholic) and Su (Chinese female; don't know her religion)
Becerra (Latino Catholic)
Fudge (Black female)
Buttigieg (gay)
Granholm (Catholic female)
Cardona (Latino Catholic)
McDonough (Catholic)
Mayorkas (Latino Jewish)

3/3
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