A quick thread on working with students remotely. As the saying goes, "talent is uniformly distributed, but opportunity is not".
I've had success working with indian undergrads remotely, and found some of my awesome students via this approach: @RohanKadekodi and @Ponnapalli95
@RohanKadekodi@Ponnapalli95 To provide some background for this: indian grad students not in the IITs or NITs have low exposure to research, and very few opportunities to do research in their undergrad. This is despite many students being super smart, motivated, and hard working.
@RohanKadekodi@Ponnapalli95 This is a pool of students that is largely untapped by American grad schools. However, the pool has large variance in the quality of students, and it takes significant effort to find the good students.
I've been working with students remotely over the past three years to identify and recruit these students. This is how I found @RohanKadekodi and @Ponnapalli95 (or rather, they found me): both worked with me remotely for about six months before joining my group.
I'm also working remotely with @hubatrix through the ReportBee Fellowship, and we had a HotStorage workshop paper out earlier this year.
I worked with Nikhil Sambus remotely and he went off to the University of Toronto to work with Prof. Ashvin Goel :)
These days, when a promising student emails me, I offer to work remotely with them to strengthen their application. I make it clear I'm not looking for students myself, but I would be happy to work with them and write them a letter if things go well.
About 90% of these interactions fizzle out after the first few emails, so its not a lot of effort on my part. But the students who remain tend to be motivated, organized, and hard working since they are doing all this on the side on top of regular school work.
I highly recommend my fellow assistant profs to try this. This is an awesome new pool of students. Its takes effort to find the good students, but its usually worth it since there is a very good chance the student will come and work with you during grad school.
Here's my low cost method for doing this. Open-source your research prototype on Github. Have issues you tag as "Help Wanted". Direct students who want to contribute to these issues. See who actually codes and ask questions.
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Observe this dichotomy:
- Folks on one side: grad school/academia is bliss, its paradise, etc
- Folks on other side: A significant % of students in Cali were homeless during their PhD, postdocs and profs cannot afford daycare
We significantly underpay everyone in academia, right from grad students to professors.
The folks who are not in High Cost-of-Living locations don't really feel it, and hence do not support salary increases
There is also this weird angle thrown in where academia is a "calling", which the management uses to underpay everyone (but significantly, not the administrators!)
- Over 3400 members
- Both industry and academia
- Channels for areas (e.g, networking), hiring, internships, conf announcements
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@danrkports - We have an anonymous channel where folks can ask for advice (students use this a lot)
- We have six private invite-only channels: Women in CS (run by @schemeprincess), grad students, industry, faculty lounge, faculty candidates
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- Confs and workshops have used it to run PC meetings before -- it is convenient since many academic folks are already in the slack
- We have a channel for finding roommates for confs, and other much misc purposes
Okay, another question via DM: how to decide between academia versus industry job versus post-doc? A 🧵
There are a number of differences between academia and an industry job, but to me it boils down to three things: 1) Students 2) What you want to work on 3) Money
First, students. This is the biggest difference, and the reason why I became a professor.
If you enjoy mentoring students and seeing them grow, and if you enjoy teaching, academia is a good place to do this. You get interns in industry, but its not quite the same.
Second, what you want to work on. As the recent events surrounding @timnitGebru have shown, it is hard to do some kinds of work in industry. If your work might be critical of industry, it helps to be in academia.
So someone asked me in DMs how I figured out I liked research and to go for a PhD.
When I joined @WisconsinCS, it was actually for a Masters degree, and I hadn't planned on doing a PhD at all. While doing the Masters, I got involved in research with Remzi and Andrea.
@WisconsinCS Near the end of the masters degree, I got a software engineering job and was actually all set to leave academia and join industry.
But Remzi and Andrea convinced me to stay for six more months, and if I didn't like research by then, that I would still be able to get the dev job
So I stayed. Over the six months, I figured out that I had a lot more fun working on research than doing software development work.
So I decided to stay and get the PhD, and then go get a researcher job in industry.
So at the recent CI Fellows panel organized by @aruna__b and team, I got asked about being on social media as an academic, pros and cons, and how to go about doing it.
I think this would be widely useful, so a quick thread about this 🧵 1/n
I think a goal that many academics share is having increased visibility for our work. We don't want to just publish papers, we want folks to read them, be influenced by them, build on them, etc.
One traditional way folks did this is by visiting other places and giving talks
While giving talks remains the best way to do this, I think being on social media offers a new, cheaper route to getting higher visibility for your work. You get more eyeballs for your work, and you establish yourself as a person with expertise on topic X.
So the stated reason for censoring @timnitGebru's paper (and subsequently leading to her dismissal from Google) seems to be that it ignored relevant research, and this is pretty much BS. This is the job of conf reviewers, and not the job of Google.
@timnitGebru If I wrote a paper at a company, and undisclosed folks wanted me to retract it because they felt the scholarship wasn't good enough, I would be pretty annoyed too.
The formal review process is for making sure that the paper isn't leaking company secrets etc.
This makes me sad, because I always thought of Google as a nice place to work and to do research.
If you can't publish work that the undisclosed Gods at Google don't approve of, it is not worth doing research there.