When you first realize that your symptoms aren't going away on their own. It may happen dramatically (with an ER visit) or gradually (nagging discomfort).
Many people will get into wellness protocols at this point: diets, supplements, exercise, more sleep.
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Stage 2: Symptom Validation
This is when you start pushing your PCP to investigate (which can be difficult). Many people will be given a mental health dx or referred to therapy at this point, at the expense of further investigation.
You wonder if it's all in your head
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If you're financially & energetically able to be persistent, you go through many different rounds of diagnostic testing, and your doc might tell you that it's good news when tests come back normal.
Slowly, your chart will fill up with the medical names for your symptoms.
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This is a really important part of stage 2:
It's possible to spend years or decades with validated symptoms but without a diagnosis.
If somebody is stuck in this stage, it does NOT mean they are faking or exaggerating or malingering.
It DOES mean that they need support.
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Stage 3: Diagnosis
If you've never been through it, diagnosis probably doesn't work the way you think it does.
People often begin treatment during phase 2 because lots of meds are symptom specific rather than diagnosis specific.
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So while a diagnosis often validates your experience for other people (and may improve your eligibility for benefits), it may not have any impact at all on your treatment or prognosis.
Plus, a lot of folks with chronic illness will get different dx'es from different docs.
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This is especially true with clinical diagnoses like ME, fibro, chronic Lyme (the controversy there is beyond the scope of this thread) and hEDS.
But autoimmune diseases are also often misdiagnosed or conflated, which is why a patient's story might seem like it's changing.
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The most important thing I want to say about diagnosis is that if you know somebody who's been recently dx'ed with a chronic illness, don't assume that they recently became chronically ill.
They've been chronically ill since stage 1, which may or may not be recent.
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So don't assume that a diagnosis is bad news.
It might be bad news. But it might be a relief to finally get an explanation. Or it might be neutral because it has zero impact on your treatment or quality of life. It's okay to ask a loved one how they feel about diagnosis.
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Stage 4: Effective Treatment
Like I said before, treatment often begins at stage 2. Though for lots of people, diagnosis can open the door for new protocols.
But efficacy is a relative term, and it can change with time.
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Insulin is an effective treatment for diabetes because it helps a patient manage blood sugar. It's not a cure for diabetes because it does not stop the immune system from attacking the pancreas.
If it weren't for insulin price gouging, it would be pretty straightforward.
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Remicaid can be a pretty effective treatment for Crohn's disease. Some people get a lot of their quality of life back. Some people don't get any relief with remicaid. Some people get temporary relief but eventually need to start new protocols.
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There are no standard protocols for ME, so some people experiment with lifestyle changes, off label drugs & new diagnostic testing to look for another rarer explanation for their symptoms.
If someone isn't getting better, it doesn't mean that they're not doing their best.
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Effective treatment also doesn't always mean that your life will go back to normal. It might mean bringing your pain levels from 6 to 4. It might mean that you prioritize rest so that you can reliably have 2 functional hours most days. It might mean that you're able to work.
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Effective treatment does NOT mean that you can stop thinking about your illness.
Sticking with a protocol requires time, energy and money, and it also takes up a ton of cognitive overhead to stay on track and monitor any symptoms for a possible relapse.
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Stage 5: Cure
This is... typically not a thing with chronic illness, which is why I want to talk about it.
Penicillin is a cure for syphilis. Insulin is not a cure for diabetes. Remicaid is not a cure for Crohn's.
Effective symptom management is not the same as a cure.
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This is long and obviously not everyone's experience is exactly the same. Some people are diagnosed very quickly and some people find a really effective treatment right away.
But here's why I'm talking about it: we need support & accommodation at every stage.
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If somebody you care about tells you that they have access needs or boundaries to protect their health or whatever else, believe them!
Needs and boundaries have nothing to do with diagnosis. Diagnosis is not the border between real sick people and fake sick people.
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Yes to all of this! I didn't talk at all about comorbidities & the ongoing process of acceptance and identity in this thread but they are biggies.
because a lot of this convo is happening in the void and I'm just catching up:
1. I 100% believe that KC's thread about the beighton scale was not plagiarized
2. I 100% believe SM's later point re: pattern of being erased from her own work when the paper is shared directly
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I know that's not the whole conversation (l'm still reading & processing).
I'm seeing so many people talking about the situation so thoughtfully wrt both harassment & dog piling risks as well as dynamics btwn patient communities & academia, which is a big & important convo.
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and especially because there really are so many ppl with EDS who are actively doing academic EDS research, which is great!
but probably also creates major risk for
similar conflicts in future if we don't talk more about [all the great stuff other people are already saying]
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I know I talk a lot about the legacy of hysteria & neurasthenia, but I want to be super clear that I don’t boost stuff that equates FND w hysteria.
we have a huge problem where many docs treat *most* clinical dx’es as polite ways to diagnose hysteria, no single dx holds blame.
for just about every proposed illness pathology that you roll your eyes at because it is so clearly not what’s been happening in your personal body, there’s somebody who’s like “oh shit, that’s exactly what’s happening for me!”
including FND.
instead of telling other patients that they’re interpreting their own experiences incorrectly (which is what doctors do to us), we need to start by assuming that maybe we are having different embodied experiences? so of course different diagnostic combos make sense?
a lot of docs are incentivized to behave as if their job is to prevent you from id’ing as “disabled & eligible for accommodations & benefits.”
Insurance-Endorsed Meds or Misattributing Everything To Psych needn’t be the *only* first-line interventions available.
like… imagine if our 1st steps in managing new symptoms involved immediately accommodating rest & recovery in workplace & education environments, because we *know* it can take years or decades to get chronic conditions dx’ed so dx is a bad proxy for disability onset.
it was a mistake to search twitter to find out why there are people mad about the idea that other people can choose to self-identify as disabled. a huge number of people self-id.
good reminder that exclusionary bs creates the conditions for more exclusively bs tho.
I know that the first problem is that a lot of people have a really narrow (and inaccurate) definition of disability.
but then also presumably people think that when you are diagnosed with a qualifying disabling condition then a doctor tells you you’re Officially Disabled. (no.)
you’re just sitting there in your little hospital robe, waiting for the doc to come in with news.
and then suddenly they waltz in w a ceremonial cane & tap you gently on each shoulder as you weep for your lost future before they say “the worst has happened, you’re now DISABLED.”
I understand why people are worried about casual illness language being “appropriated” but I don’t understand why so many people assume that anybody who is undiagnosed but using terms like “spoons” or “brain fog” is non-disabled.
diagnosed folks are the tip of the iceberg.
you literally cannot tell whether somebody is disabled or not by looking at them.
we know this when we talk about ourselves but magically forget when it comes to people using these terms w/o explicitly connecting them to an underlying diagnosis.
this is pretty hypocritical tbh.
(also plz note that I explicitly said casual illness language, I’m not talking about clinically defined terminology. I think precision is important for clinical terminology & also I still think we need to make sure undiagnosed people have access to accurate & appropriate terms.)
I’ve seen so many newly sick people who are worried that the general public isn’t taking chronic post-viral illness seriously because of the language we use to describe it.
I just really want to assure people that language isn’t the problem. willful disbelief is the problem.
if you talk about fatigue, some people will say “we all get tired sometimes.”
if you talk about literally losing consciousness after trying to sit up, some people will say “don’t be so dramatic.”
we’re not describing it wrong, they just don’t want to hear about it.
(also to be clear, I’m not saying that the language we use doesn’t matter. I’m generally pretty committed to building better language so we can talk about our experiences *with each other *.
other people have already decided whether or not to believe us before we start talking.)