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Aug 22, 2019 5 tweets 2 min read Read on X
Owen is right on this of course (minor couple of quibbles aside) but important to understand this is only half the story. Men opening up about distress & seeking help is important, but only helpful when we (as individuals, society & institutions) are prepared to listen & hear.
"Men must speak out & be prepared to seek help" is an atomised, individualist remedy which is actually quite convenient to the (dare I say it? Neoliberal) establishment, as it places onus on the man suffering & ignores, eg, chronic shortages of therapy on NHS @OwenJones
@owenjones The obsession with persuading men to open up about their feelings as a solution to the suicide crisis also ignores the massive role played by economic & social factors in suicide rates. Tens of thousands of men died (globally) as a direct consequence of the 2008 financial crash.
@owenjones It also ignores complex webs of social support needed to reduce/prevent suicide - alcohol & drug treatment. Homelessness. Criminalisation of social marginalisation. Patterns of child abuse and failings in child protection. Family breakdown & alienation. All massively significant.
@owenjones So yes. I'm not arguing with Owen, what he says is correct. But it is also only one part of the story - and the fact that it is the *only* part of the story which is routinely discussed is deeply problematic.

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Mar 30
OK since a slightly personal, messy & snide thread last night caught interest, here's a more direct account of my interpretation of An Inspector Calls, by J.B. Priestley.

I invite/challenge anyone who knows the play and/or more about JBP than I do to tell me I'm wrong. 🧵
The play tells of police 'Inspector Goole' visiting a rich ruling class family one evening & tells them that a young woman 'Eva Smith' has died of suicide. He proceeds to explain that every single member of the family has (literally or figuratively) fucked Eva one way or another.
Before leaving he delivers a monologue explaining there are millions of Eva & John Smiths & that unless the family change their ways, "I tell you that the time will soon come when, if men will not learn that lesson, then they will be taught it in fire and blood and anguish." >
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Dec 15, 2023
I doubt Tom is really listening but for the sake of others.

1/ A UK Embassy issues visas but the national government (of, say, Cameroon) issues passports & they often won't issue them to persecuted minorities. >
2/ In situations of civil war or violent upheaval people often get separated from their possessions, such as their passports & other documents.
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3/ People's first response in situations of danger is often to flee over a border to somewhere safer & you will usually not be able to apply for a visa from a second country once you have done so.
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Oct 27, 2023
Every mention of a ceasefire is greeted by yells of "So how would YOU get rid of Hamas?"

For what little it is worth, here are my own answers to that question. 🧵
1/ Stop giving them exactly what they want. Hamas is a fundamentalist martyrdom cult and their central strategy is to provoke Israel into committing acts of appalling violence & cruelty, because those acts are their own very best recruiting sergeant.
You cannot destroy Hamas with indiscriminate slaughter because indiscriminate slaughter creates endless fury, endless thirst for retaliation and revenge, across Gaza, across Palestine, across the world. Indiscriminate slaughter is what Hamas feeds off.
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Aug 8, 2023
Think it's probably time to once again to talk about WHY the overwhelming majority of refugees, asylum seekers & irregular migrants are young men, and why being a young man does not mean someone is not a genuine refugee or genuinely in need. 🧵
1/ Migrant journeys are extraordinarily arduous & incredibly dangerous. By conservative estimates at least 29,000 people have died trying to reach Europe since 2014. Migrants are at high risk of violence, inc. sexual violence & exploitation, or being robbed to destitution etc. >
Families often will not allow their daughters to make the journeys as they're considered safer in war zones, disaster zones etc than they would be on the road.

2/ boys & young men are first in line in war zones. >
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Jul 5, 2023
At the end of this @caitlinmoran is asked if she thinks there should be a Minister for Men & replies "If it's about equalities, then yes, you need to have both."

This is welcome but slightly off-beam, because fundamentally it's *not* about equalities. Hear me out... >
Men's issues are *not* predicated on equality, they are issues of health, welfare & social policy. (In crude terms, we could achieve equality by raising the female suicide rate & slashing men's wages, neither of which would help anyone.) Men don't need equality they need equity >
So men need policies that meet their needs, which are generally different to women's needs. We don't need a Minister for Men in the Equalities Office with a brief mirroring the Women's Minister. We do (desperately) need a Minister for Men's Health & Wellbeing within the DoH. >
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Jul 1, 2023
I’ve kept schtum thus far in @caitlinmoran’s new book became I haven’t read it yet but cannot contain my frustration at this section from her Guardian piece today.
I chair a charity @MBCoalition which strives to do EXACTLY what she describes. We’ve been around since 2016 but had predecessors much further back. Here’s a piece I wrote about exactly this back in 2012 theguardian.com/commentisfree/…
There are also other organisations covering more specialised issues but from the same approach such as Men’s Health Forum & Male Survivors Partnership. >
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