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Aug 27, 2019 8 tweets 6 min read Read on X
Don't miss this podcast @karaswisher in conversation with three others on CDA230. I think everyone can agree with @mmasnick analogy/point phone company shouldn't be liable for a phone call in which there is a false bomb scare. /1 podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1011… stitcher.com/podcast/vox/re…
However, I think that misses unique role of social media which often accelerates providing reach and velocity for problematic, harmful material thru the content it creates to drive up engagement. We know approaching 80% of YouTube engagement comes from their recommendations? /2
So I question the panel suggesting politicians have different issues with CDA230. If you step up a level, I think you'll find common concern as to responsibility over their algorithms. It's either a liability issue or an antitrust issue or both. It's dangerous if it's neither? /3
We've heard conservatives in US, Canada, UK often fairly express concerns over what content gets left up or taken down (one argued Pelosi video should have been taken down), worried about the coding decisions of unavoidably biased set of humans. /4
We've heard progressives in US, Canada, UK also fairly express concerns around algorithm decisions, who gets targeted by content and whether self-assessments are done to examine harm to groups from changes. /5
These are all reasonable questions and I hear them asked smartly by lawmakers from all parties (eg @HawleyMO @DamianCollins @bobzimmermp @beynate @JoStevensLabour @davidcicilline). So I just return to ? of who is responsible for experiences driven by recommendation engines? /6
@HawleyMO @DamianCollins @bobzimmermp @beynate @JoStevensLabour @davidcicilline It's not the content itself. If it's legal, please don't censor. And please keep govt out of these decisions. But at the same time, the reach and velocity from social media is where they make their profits. That fake Pelosi video shouldn't have taken 24hrs to be decelerated. /7
@HawleyMO @DamianCollins @bobzimmermp @beynate @JoStevensLabour @davidcicilline So point being it's not as simple as phone company not being responsible for the content of a phone call when the phone company is listening to call, profiting from the call and spreading it faster than history could have ever imagined in order to generate profit from it. /end

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Jan 21
Woah. Sheryl Sandberg, former COO of Facebook, just sanctioned by Delaware judge for deleting emails ahead of trial this spring. This is the state pension shareholder case alleging the company overpaid the FTC and SEC in $5B+ settlements in order to protect Zuckerberg. /1 Image
Long after the books had been inspected and many lawsuits had played out, it was disclosed last year she had a personal Gmail account under a pseudonym that may have been used for relevant communications. /2 Image
The Judge here calls her a "high sophisticated individual." He probably doesn't know about the 2018 NYT report on how she carved out these issues in her Senate Intel testimony or how their lawyers were sanctioned on related discovery in California. /3 Image
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Jan 16
wow. This AI lawsuit against Facebook keeps getting worse as they reluctantly unseal documents on Court orders.
Check out this allegation. Not only two hrs before discovery cut-off but the Friday before we now know Mark Zuckerberg was deposed... /1 Image
Here is the bit from the newly filed and now unsealed third amended complaint. Allegations here Facebook used torrenting to download a pirated dataset to train LLaMA thereby also "seeding" pirated content globally. This is a BFD. /2 storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.usco…Image
In fact, it can be criminal so this count is in the third amended complaint and the state attorney general (hello, @AGRobBonta) should note these allegations here. As it relates to this case, it may also break their privilege claims since it alleged to further a crime. /3 Image
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Jan 14
wow. Upon Court order, incriminating exhibits were unsealed at 3:30am in an AI lawsuit against Meta. Once past a 'fake privilege,' it appears Zuckerberg approved the use of a highly controversial, pirated dataset.
Note OpenAI, too? AI companies with no ethics or guardrails. /1 Image
Here they acknowledge risk in media coverage, and massive EU fines, if "we have used a dataset we know to be pirated." So then you ask yourself the question, did they actually know it was pirated and use it? I uploaded docs - . /2 storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.usco…Image
To that question, here is how the internal project manager describes the dataset. Note the line (these are all my yellow highlights), "when sourced from copyrighted materials without the permission of copyright holders." /3 Image
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Jan 8
woah. This Friday? Too much moving on court dockets so I will surface for you. This matters, in this mega-Facebook case, as highly respected Chenault was Chairman of Facebook's board during its biggest scandals. WSJ reported he left board after disagreements with Zuckerberg. /1 Image
Here is the report on his departure, it includes reports of disagreements with Peter Thiel, too, over elections policies and "clashes" over moderation policies.
Btw, highly relevant to the last 24hrs of news. /2 wsj.com/articles/chena…Image
Moving on, Zuckerberg has also been noticed for deposition after "alleged wrongdoing on a truly colossal scale." He was already deposed last month in Hawaii for 7hrs. I would expect SEC closely compares transcripts to their 2019 depo which @zamaan_qureshi managed to unseal. /3 Image
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Dec 31, 2024
The secret deal (aka "Project Jedi Blue") between Google and Facebook has finally been unsealed in district court tonight. Link in text tweet. /1 Image
Here is a link to the full 48 pages of the agreement. /2 storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.usco…
Here is how NYT reported it in the complaint. Google and Facebook suggested it was misrepresented. Their proxies have misled public into thinking it was dismissed from lawsuit despite Google's CEO being deposed about it only months ago. /3 nytimes.com/2021/01/17/tec…
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Dec 31, 2024
woah. ~300 redacted summary judgment google exhibits posted in TX. I've uploaded all. most eye-popping - we finally get Google-Facebook contract (aka Jedi Blue) alleged as bid rigging (yes, press was misled, it's still part of the claims). /1 Image
If you need a definition for Match Rate, Google and Facebook include it with example of using the "encrypted blob" on mobile, feels very much like a fingerprint y'all. Here is the full contract, don't sleep on section dealing with monopoly enforcement. /2 storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.usco…Image
There are a ton of new exhibits from discovery with similar themes of Google secretly using projects to manipulate its black box auctions. "The first rule of Bernanke is we don't talk about Bernanke." /3 Image
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