Which is important because you can have multiple GIFs per post but only one movie.
your best bet is to download the mp4 and convert it to a GIF, which is a lossy process
WebP was announced alongside WebM, which is for video.
Why aren't they WebMs?
... Because WebP supports video too. ARGH
It's not really a video format. It's a bunch-of-still-images format.
The FAQ tries to sell this as a feature (because "less CPU!") but really it just means that it doesn't compress as well as a real movie format.
If you're going to break compatibility in the name of lower bandwidth, why not break it for something that'll actually compress well, instead of a lousy half-way format?
But I can say that when I worked for 4chan, there was only two things I was ever able to convince moot to do that ended up being good ideas in the long run:
1. deleting the old politics board
2. banning APNG
I was active on the /r/ board for requests, 4chan appointed "janitors" who were single-board mini-moderators, I was one, moot liked a site I made and wanted it incorporated into 4chan so he hired me for it
While working for 4chan I also created /r9k/ based on a joke in a xkcd blogpost, and worked on a channer-meet-up site that never came out.
In other words, the format is immediately supported by every site that supports PNGs and for 99.9% of users not using the newest Firefox, they're static
I've literally known paranoid schizophrenics with less paranoia than that strange little man.
"come move up to Virginia and work for me full time as the 4chan programmer"
the old politics board had turned entirely into a shithole of racist talking points. You might think "lol isn't that all 4chan?" but this was clearly bad even for 4chan.
and then later he designed a bunch of new boards and guess what, politics came back.
but yeah, you can't convince moot of things. moot is gonna moot.
4chan had a huge community thing of the ironic racism stuff and the incel stuff, before we had the word.
We understood a bunch and just didn't care or think it was that bad. I definitely made a lot of mistakes in all of that. I'm sorry.
the point of this thread was that "isn't it annoying that we replaced one sub-par-for-current-uses standard with a bunch of different ones so we lost compatibility in the name of bandwidth?"
I'm sure a lot of it was. 4chan had enough racism already. /pol/ just had a very clearly driven narrative that made me think it was being done by a more organized force than the kind of usual idiot 4chan had.
You saw this in things like raiding habbo hotel, where they'd shut down parts of the game virtual flashmobs.
Communities of disaffected young men are often prime candidates for recruitment into fascist movements and boy, 4chan was one big festering boil of them.
I don't like it when it gets harder to share things between different websites.
Yeah, sure, DVD had way better quality and neat features and was more compact, but VHS was recordable. That was actually a prime feature! I've heard it argued that VHS really took off because of recording TV.
And DVRs like Tivo stepped up but lost something...
the local CBS station aired Empire Strikes Back sometime in the late 80s, and a distorted VHS copy of it is how I got introduced into that whole series.
You might not think it's important but it's definitely something we had and have mostly lost.
No movies yet because no one had the bandwidth but lots of pictures, sure.
Which is hilarious, given that that's what so many of these sites were built on in the first place.
And now that they're on top, they want to close the door behind them.
In the beginning Hollywood hated the VCR and were worried it would destroy their profits.
Yeah, there's good technical reasons why we should probably be moving away from GIF, the format no longer matches how it's used in the modern era.
Posting movies is usually a step up: you have to match formats, or wait for encoding, or whatever
Even if it's not some giant company like Facebook trying to control it, lots of little things add up to affect the flow of community, and it's worth paying attention to.
There's a lot of Big Problems that seem unstoppable now that could have been prevented all together had people noticed and spoke up at the beginning.
This is just another site doing another GIF->NewFormat conversion and that's happened plenty of times. It feels overly dramatic to write this much on it.
as Kosh from B5 said, "The avalanche has already started, it is too late for the pebbles to vote"
Some of these pebbles are pushing hard to make the avalanche happen, because they're hoping to be on top once all the dust settles.