I think the gender debate is so infuriating, not just because TRA’s assertions and demands are often crazy, but because they don’t even agree *with themselves*. The whole thing is contradictions, conflation and incoherence. So I have some questions 1/
If sex is a spectrum and male / female don’t really exist, then what are you transitioning from / to? Even if intersex / DSD’s meant a third sex (it doesn’t) why is it never addressed that ALMOST NONE of you *are actually intersex*? 2/
Why don’t you ever listen to people with DSD’s? They repeatedly ask not to be used as a pawn in this. If identity and lived experience is something that always has to be respected, why do you constantly deny theirs? 3/
If TW are unsafe in male facilities cos of men, why campaign for self ID where those evil men could just self ID into the women’s facilities with you? Why also campaign for gender neutral spaces so those men could freely use any facilities? Is this really about safety? 4/
If TWAW without HRT, surgery or even having a shave, why are you so insistent that *ALL* children need to be on HRT / blockers ASAP? These two positions are contradictory – you need to pick one (although both will still be wrong, imo. Sorry) 5/
Why would you even assume that teen girls (many of whom are ASD or have MH issues) not wanting to be a woman in a porn addled culture has ANYTHING to do with middle aged men wanting to be women which, in some cases, is blatantly a sexual fetish? 6/
Why would you assume that these vastly different groups have anything in common? You do (you say it is gender identity) yet you medicalise the kids and let the middle aged men LARP as women often with no treatment. This makes no sense 7/
You are very keen on intersectionality, so why do you treat ‘trans’ as a monolith? Why is there no acknowledgement that that there are huge differences, in reason, motivation and outcome, within this group? 8/
If TWAW, and lesbians are ‘genital fetishists’ why are most of the ‘trans lesbians’ so obsessed with actual (so vagina-owning) lesbians? If TWAW, why don’t you just suck each other’s lady dicks? Why is your ‘genital fetish’ OK, but lesbians isn’t? 9/
Why do you never address that many in this group are dysphoric people trying to fit in, yet others are CLEARLY creepy men taking the piss? The fact that you refuse to acknowledge this obvious truth definitely reduces my confidence that you argue in good faith 10/
If you think sex is a spectrum or doesn’t exist, why don’t you campaign for 3rd spaces in sports, prisons, refuges etc or to do away with it entirely? . Why do you always demand access to women’s resources if ‘woman’ is not a thing that really exists? 11/
Why do you never ask men to make any changes? Why is there this constant assault on women’s spaces and boundaries but men get a total free pass? I’ll be honest, this really makes the whole thing look a lot like a men’s rights movement 12/
Why do you hate desisters and detransitoners so much? Why isn’t their identity valid? Why do you deny they exist and aggressively fight all attempts to perform research in this area? Why does their existence, and their needs, threaten you? /13
No one is denying your experience. We just want to avoid false positives and kids starting on a pathway that is not right for them. Why don’t you want that for them? It doesn’t mean that pathway is inherently wrong, and it doesn’t deny it might be right for you 14/
I believe gender dysphoria is real. I know people that have it. They seem to have a genuine need to make physical changes and just want to blend in and live happy lives. They don’t make demands with menaces. Why do you hate these trans people so much? 15/
We are not going to get far if we don’t acknowledge reality. The reality is the ‘trans’ umbrella includes a lot of different groups and there is no way to deal with this satisfactorily if we just pretend it’s a single thing that is ‘gender identity’ 16/
14 year old (future) lesbians not wanting to be women as they’re afraid of the aggressive attention they’re getting from men IS NOT THE SAME THING as a 40 yo man saying he’s a woman because he gets a sexual thrill from wearing lingerie. They’re just not. Stop saying they are 17/
Some 14 yo females may find, long term, the best outcome is to transition. Some 40 yo males may actually be transsexual and doing it is NOT for a sexual thrill. We need a system to tell the difference, as it is important. Why are you so against having a system? 18/
We need a system to stop men, for whom this is a fetish, having free access to women’s spaces. There are sadly also many other creepy men who will abuse weaknesses in ANY system to their own advantage. I wish this weren’t true, but it is 19/
I want to support people with dysphoria. This is becoming increasingly difficult if you simply demand I believe everyone is the sex they say they are. This system is massively open to abuse and is, blatantly, a slow motion car crash if we allow kids to think this way 20/
We need to have difficult conversations. No doubt someone will immediately call me a ‘boomer’ or some angry (almost always bearded) left wing dude will call me a TERF. We still need to have the conversation, ideally among grownups. You are not helping. We need to talk /end
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