T: Because they highlights were there, not detail.
Q: Why was it cryptic?
A: Reading the transcript and looking back at their summary, there were issues to be pursued - pretty ordinary. We were with Zelensy the next day.
Q: When did you first realize that there were things in the call that were concerning
A: Morrison briefed him several days later, it could have gone better, it mentioned Giuliani and the former Ambassador,.
Q: Corruption indemic in Ukraine right? Lots of problems there with prosecutors?
AK: Yes, up until the last two months.
Q: Problem is oligarchical, right?
A: Yes, that is correct.
Q: How did government pursue that?
K: They turned to partners to try to recover tens of billions of dollars. They worked with us and Ukranian authorities, money was frozen until someone shut the case and the money disappeared.
A: We considered to raise that US Taxpayers have a fiduciary responsibility, and pressed for why corrupt prosecutors closed the case. We haven't gotten an answer.
Q: Are you in favor of that matter being investigated and prosecuted?
Q: Burisma, involved in criminal activity?
K: I do not know, its business reputation is mixed.
Q: Would it be fair for new prosecutor to reinvestigate?
K: There is a lot to review, but he said he would review
A: yes, they were adding, and I dont know why.
Q: Who did he add?
A: Most prominent added, Biden and President of Poland.
Q: Does that create a problem that they are added to board for protection?
A: I work in gov. dont know
Q: Does Biden offer anything other than dad is VP? Doesnt that raise questions
Taylor and Kent not answering.
K: He made a total of 6 visits to Ukraine.
Q: You were the DCM at this time?
K: Pence didn't come while I was there.
Q: ou have seen he is giving a speech about how he went into Ukraine and told them if they dont fire lose aid
Q: After you expressed that concern of a perceived conflict of interest, did his role decrease?
K: No, Hunter Biden stayed on board
T: No, it is not as outlandish as it could be.
Q: you have known Volker for years and knowledge of region and best interest of US and Ukraine
A: Yes to all
A: A little unusual for him to be involved with Ukraine
Q: Perry was the third member, his acceptable involvement?
A: I arrived in Kiev in Mid June, and by the end of June, I had begun to hear references to investigations as something that would have to happen prior to the meeting that Trump offered to Zelensky
A: I didn't at the time, both channels were interested in having a meeting between Trump and Zelensky. No reason to.
Q: At some point you develop concerns. You are here #1 and #2,
Q: You knew going in that Giuliani presented complexities.
A: I was concerned about his statements and involvement in policy.
Q: did you try to engage anyone about this?
A: I raised my concerns with Kent, early on when this phone call that was odd in that it did not include the normal staff and that struck me as unusual.
A: Yes. The call with Zelensky did not, but the prep for it did- was a little irregular in that it didn't have the staff. Volker told the rest of the participants that he was planning to have a conversation
A: Giulianis interest in pursuing these investigations was of concern
Q: How many did Volker meet with Rudy?
Q: Only once that they met
A: One breakfast, but I didn't know that they were in touch.
Q: There was an instance in that USAID was going to sponsor a program and you told them to step away
A: In 2016, clean energy contest was sponsored and there was a prize