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@leadahorse2 @sergcg @qAnon5_5 @h8Wankmaggot45 @WillWith2Ls @Xlyrzblre @Pacoluismonta9a @twit_kung_fu @1980Dorothy @suzy_swears @judgingurn @Mike69740911 @Rosie 1/ The House is after Trump’s tax and financial records because it knows Trump is a tax cheat a money launderer for Russian oligarchs. Trump would ignore attempts to get that evidence from him, so the House subpoenaed it from his accountants (Mazars) and bankers (Deutsche Bank).
@leadahorse2 @sergcg @qAnon5_5 @h8Wankmaggot45 @WillWith2Ls @Xlyrzblre @Pacoluismonta9a @twit_kung_fu @1980Dorothy @suzy_swears @judgingurn @Mike69740911 @Rosie 2/ House subpoenas were issued by two committees: Financial Services and Intelligence. Financial Services said it wanted the records to help consider new laws that might stop Trump’s crimes in the future. Intelligence said it wants the records to see whether Trump is compromised.
@leadahorse2 @sergcg @qAnon5_5 @h8Wankmaggot45 @WillWith2Ls @Xlyrzblre @Pacoluismonta9a @twit_kung_fu @1980Dorothy @suzy_swears @judgingurn @Mike69740911 @Rosie 3/ Trump hired personal lawyers to intervene and block the subpoenas that were issued to Mazars and Deutsche Bank. Trump’s lawyers are arguing that Congress lacks a valid “legislative purpose” for getting Trump’s financial records. Let’s look closely at those arguments.
@leadahorse2 @sergcg @qAnon5_5 @h8Wankmaggot45 @WillWith2Ls @Xlyrzblre @Pacoluismonta9a @twit_kung_fu @1980Dorothy @suzy_swears @judgingurn @Mike69740911 @Rosie 4/ Financial Services wants the records as a “test case” to see if it needs new money laundering laws. Trump claims they really want the records for “law enforcement,” to see whether Trump committed crimes. Congress doesn’t have law enforcement power, so this would be invalid.
@leadahorse2 @sergcg @qAnon5_5 @h8Wankmaggot45 @WillWith2Ls @Xlyrzblre @Pacoluismonta9a @twit_kung_fu @1980Dorothy @suzy_swears @judgingurn @Mike69740911 @Rosie 5/ So this argument comes down to whether the court believes Financial Services or thinks they are lying. In both the Marzars and Deutsche Bank cases, the lower courts ruled in favor of Congress.
@leadahorse2 @sergcg @qAnon5_5 @h8Wankmaggot45 @WillWith2Ls @Xlyrzblre @Pacoluismonta9a @twit_kung_fu @1980Dorothy @suzy_swears @judgingurn @Mike69740911 @Rosie 6/ Two separate appellate courts have reviewed the lower court rulings and have supported the house’s case.
@leadahorse2 @sergcg @qAnon5_5 @h8Wankmaggot45 @WillWith2Ls @Xlyrzblre @Pacoluismonta9a @twit_kung_fu @1980Dorothy @suzy_swears @judgingurn @Mike69740911 @Rosie 6/ Two separate appellate courts have reviewed the lower court rulings and support the house’s case.
@leadahorse2 @sergcg @qAnon5_5 @h8Wankmaggot45 @WillWith2Ls @Xlyrzblre @Pacoluismonta9a @twit_kung_fu @1980Dorothy @suzy_swears @judgingurn @Mike69740911 @Rosie 7/ But, remember, the Intelligence Committee has a different rationale for its subpoena, namely to see whether Trump is compromised. Trump’s legal team really has no argument against this rationale because it’s clearly legit and within Intel’s purview.
@leadahorse2 @sergcg @qAnon5_5 @h8Wankmaggot45 @WillWith2Ls @Xlyrzblre @Pacoluismonta9a @twit_kung_fu @1980Dorothy @suzy_swears @judgingurn @Mike69740911 @Rosie 8/ The linked article indicates that the Judiciary Committee (which did not issue the subpoenas) has requested ALL evidence from ALL other committees. So if Financial Services can’t get the records, but Intelligence can, the records still find their way to the Judiciary Committee
@leadahorse2 @sergcg @qAnon5_5 @h8Wankmaggot45 @WillWith2Ls @Xlyrzblre @Pacoluismonta9a @twit_kung_fu @1980Dorothy @suzy_swears @judgingurn @Mike69740911 @Rosie 9/ What this means is that Trump needs to defeat BOTH Financial Services AND Intelligence in order to keep his tax and financial records from getting to Judiciary for use in connection with the impeachment inquiry. Which means Trump is DOOMED.
@leadahorse2 @sergcg @qAnon5_5 @h8Wankmaggot45 @WillWith2Ls @Xlyrzblre @Pacoluismonta9a @twit_kung_fu @1980Dorothy @suzy_swears @judgingurn @Mike69740911 @Rosie 10/ The House already won both cases in district court. Mazars appeal was argued on 7/12 in the DC Circuit Court of Appeals and the Deutsche Bank case was argued on 8/23 in 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals.
@leadahorse2 @sergcg @qAnon5_5 @h8Wankmaggot45 @WillWith2Ls @Xlyrzblre @Pacoluismonta9a @twit_kung_fu @1980Dorothy @suzy_swears @judgingurn @Mike69740911 @Rosie 11/ Both courts should find for the House, [and they did] leaving Trump with an appeal to #SCOTUS.
@leadahorse2 @sergcg @qAnon5_5 @h8Wankmaggot45 @WillWith2Ls @Xlyrzblre @Pacoluismonta9a @twit_kung_fu @1980Dorothy @suzy_swears @judgingurn @Mike69740911 @Rosie 12/ Once the cases go to SCOTUS the question is whether SCOTUS will issue a Writ of Certiorari (i.e., hear the case). I can see SCOTUS taking the FinServ issue on appeal, but not the Intelligence issue. At that point, the House can drop the FinServ portion and moot the appeal.
@leadahorse2 @sergcg @qAnon5_5 @h8Wankmaggot45 @WillWith2Ls @Xlyrzblre @Pacoluismonta9a @twit_kung_fu @1980Dorothy @suzy_swears @judgingurn @Mike69740911 @Rosie 13/ The upshot of all this is that the House Intelligence Committee will get Trump’s tax and financial records showing him to be a tax cheat & a money launderer. And Intelligence will promptly share those documents with the Judiciary Committee for use in the impeachment inquiry.
@leadahorse2 @sergcg @qAnon5_5 @h8Wankmaggot45 @WillWith2Ls @Xlyrzblre @Pacoluismonta9a @twit_kung_fu @1980Dorothy @suzy_swears @judgingurn @Mike69740911 @Rosie 14/ Here’s the best part: Once the courts find the subpoenas valid, there’s nothing Trump or DOJ can do to stop them from being turned over. Mazars and Deutsche Bank are the ones holding the documents and they already have said they will comply with whatever the courts order.
@leadahorse2 @sergcg @qAnon5_5 @h8Wankmaggot45 @WillWith2Ls @Xlyrzblre @Pacoluismonta9a @twit_kung_fu @1980Dorothy @suzy_swears @judgingurn @Mike69740911 @Rosie 15/ And the Intelligence Committee hired Daniel Goldman (former deputy chief of the organized crime section of Manhattan US Attorney’s office) and Daniel Noble (co-chief of the complex frauds and cybercrime unit of Manhattan US Attorney’s office) to analyze Trump’s financials.
@leadahorse2 @sergcg @qAnon5_5 @h8Wankmaggot45 @WillWith2Ls @Xlyrzblre @Pacoluismonta9a @twit_kung_fu @1980Dorothy @suzy_swears @judgingurn @Mike69740911 @Rosie 16/ House General Counsel Douglas Letter said in open court this past Friday (8/23) that the Intelligence Committee needs Trump’s financial records because it has reason to believe he’s compromised by Russia AND Saudi Arabia. @SethAbramson @tribelaw
@leadahorse2 @sergcg @qAnon5_5 @h8Wankmaggot45 @WillWith2Ls @Xlyrzblre @Pacoluismonta9a @twit_kung_fu @1980Dorothy @suzy_swears @judgingurn @Mike69740911 @Rosie @SethAbramson @tribelaw 17/ [Nov. 4] Less than two weeks ago, President Trump’s personal attorney William Consovoy stood before a panel of federal appellate judges and told them that the president is immune from criminal investigation even if Trump shoots someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue.
@leadahorse2 @sergcg @qAnon5_5 @h8Wankmaggot45 @WillWith2Ls @Xlyrzblre @Pacoluismonta9a @twit_kung_fu @1980Dorothy @suzy_swears @judgingurn @Mike69740911 @Rosie @SethAbramson @tribelaw 18/ It didn’t take long for that panel to reject this extraordinary argument. On Monday, an unanimous panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit held that Trump is not immune from such investigations. The case is Trump v. Vance.
@leadahorse2 @sergcg @qAnon5_5 @h8Wankmaggot45 @WillWith2Ls @Xlyrzblre @Pacoluismonta9a @twit_kung_fu @1980Dorothy @suzy_swears @judgingurn @Mike69740911 @Rosie @SethAbramson @tribelaw 19/ Vance arises from Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance’s effort to secure many of Trump’s financial documents from Trump’s accounting firm, including his tax forms.
@leadahorse2 @sergcg @qAnon5_5 @h8Wankmaggot45 @WillWith2Ls @Xlyrzblre @Pacoluismonta9a @twit_kung_fu @1980Dorothy @suzy_swears @judgingurn @Mike69740911 @Rosie @SethAbramson @tribelaw 20/ Vance seeks these documents as part of a fairly broad-reaching criminal investigation that may ultimately implicate Trump himself, but that may also only wind up implicating some of Trump’s companies or his business associates.
@leadahorse2 @sergcg @qAnon5_5 @h8Wankmaggot45 @WillWith2Ls @Xlyrzblre @Pacoluismonta9a @twit_kung_fu @1980Dorothy @suzy_swears @judgingurn @Mike69740911 @Rosie @SethAbramson @tribelaw 21/ Trump’s immunity claim is especially weak because Vance seeks personal documents that are unrelated to Trump’s conduct in office.
@leadahorse2 @sergcg @qAnon5_5 @h8Wankmaggot45 @WillWith2Ls @Xlyrzblre @Pacoluismonta9a @twit_kung_fu @1980Dorothy @suzy_swears @judgingurn @Mike69740911 @Rosie @SethAbramson @tribelaw 22/ Though prior Supreme Court decisions establish that the president enjoys “absolute immunity from damages liability predicated on his official acts,” this case does not involve Trump’s conduct in office.
@leadahorse2 @sergcg @qAnon5_5 @h8Wankmaggot45 @WillWith2Ls @Xlyrzblre @Pacoluismonta9a @twit_kung_fu @1980Dorothy @suzy_swears @judgingurn @Mike69740911 @Rosie @SethAbramson @tribelaw 24/ The only thing at issue here is whether Trump’s accountants must comply with a subpoena. And the court answers that question in the affirmative. “While the President may be correct that state courts lack the authority to issue him orders,”
@leadahorse2 @sergcg @qAnon5_5 @h8Wankmaggot45 @WillWith2Ls @Xlyrzblre @Pacoluismonta9a @twit_kung_fu @1980Dorothy @suzy_swears @judgingurn @Mike69740911 @Rosie @SethAbramson @tribelaw 25/ Katzmann writes, “that provides no basis to enjoin the enforcement of a subpoena issued to a third party simply because the President is implicated in the subject matter of the investigation.”
@leadahorse2 @sergcg @qAnon5_5 @h8Wankmaggot45 @WillWith2Ls @Xlyrzblre @Pacoluismonta9a @twit_kung_fu @1980Dorothy @suzy_swears @judgingurn @Mike69740911 @Rosie @SethAbramson @tribelaw 26/ This decision is undoubtedly correct, at least under existing precedents. “The most relevant precedent for present purposes is United States v. Nixon,”
@leadahorse2 @sergcg @qAnon5_5 @h8Wankmaggot45 @WillWith2Ls @Xlyrzblre @Pacoluismonta9a @twit_kung_fu @1980Dorothy @suzy_swears @judgingurn @Mike69740911 @Rosie @SethAbramson @tribelaw 27/ Katzmann notes, a 1974 Supreme Court decision requiring President Nixon to “‘produce certain tape recordings and documents relating to his conversations with aides and advisers’ for use in a criminal trial against high‐level advisers to the President.”
@leadahorse2 @sergcg @qAnon5_5 @h8Wankmaggot45 @WillWith2Ls @Xlyrzblre @Pacoluismonta9a @twit_kung_fu @1980Dorothy @suzy_swears @judgingurn @Mike69740911 @Rosie @SethAbramson @tribelaw 28/ Nixon involved official communications that were protected by executive privilege. And yet the Supreme Court held that Nixon must turn over those communications.
@leadahorse2 @sergcg @qAnon5_5 @h8Wankmaggot45 @WillWith2Ls @Xlyrzblre @Pacoluismonta9a @twit_kung_fu @1980Dorothy @suzy_swears @judgingurn @Mike69740911 @Rosie @SethAbramson @tribelaw 29/ Vance, by contrast, involves documents unrelated to Trump’s official duties and unprotected by executive privilege. Trump’s immunity claim in Vance, in other words, is much weaker than Nixon’s unsuccessful claim in Nixon.
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