Been mulling over some moderate reasons against #IndyWales.
In the end they just boil down to one of two options
1. Preference
2. Indy Anxiety
Because I'm really struggling to understand how anyone can defend a state running a 35% deficit with v poor socio-economic outcomes.
In the end they just boil down to one of two options
1. Preference
2. Indy Anxiety
Because I'm really struggling to understand how anyone can defend a state running a 35% deficit with v poor socio-economic outcomes.
Too poor.
Both Labour and Conservative governments favour an economic and constitutional model that's responsible for Wales' current performance. If we are poor isn't it time to change the model?
Both Labour and Conservative governments favour an economic and constitutional model that's responsible for Wales' current performance. If we are poor isn't it time to change the model?
England subsidises Wales.
The UK state has allowed Wales' economy to lose ground with roUK to the point of running a £13.7Bn govt spending deficit. Don't blame Wales. Blame the governments, the political parties whose policies failed Wales. A prosperous Wales is good for England
The UK state has allowed Wales' economy to lose ground with roUK to the point of running a £13.7Bn govt spending deficit. Don't blame Wales. Blame the governments, the political parties whose policies failed Wales. A prosperous Wales is good for England
Too small.
Many smaller nations than Wales. Check out the ave GDP/capita of sub 5M countries. Small countries are amongst the most affluent on earth.
Many smaller nations than Wales. Check out the ave GDP/capita of sub 5M countries. Small countries are amongst the most affluent on earth.
We haven't got any decent politicians.
Matter of opinion. Doesn't help that mismanagement of Wales' economy leads to a huge loss of educated and skilled people of working age from our economy. A vicious circle that no doubt leads to many of our most capable leaving our country.
Matter of opinion. Doesn't help that mismanagement of Wales' economy leads to a huge loss of educated and skilled people of working age from our economy. A vicious circle that no doubt leads to many of our most capable leaving our country.
Being part of the union means Wales punches above its weight on the international stage.
So when was the last time Wales used its UN seat to influence World affairs? Which treatises have we brokered? How do we help developing countries? Did we help with the Paris accord?
So when was the last time Wales used its UN seat to influence World affairs? Which treatises have we brokered? How do we help developing countries? Did we help with the Paris accord?
The union allows us to stand in solidarity with other people in the UK.
Do we not stand in solidarity with people outside of our state? Does solidarity deliver low wages, child poverty, poor health outcomes, a graduate drain, 30% less spend/capita on Education, Sci & Transport?
Do we not stand in solidarity with people outside of our state? Does solidarity deliver low wages, child poverty, poor health outcomes, a graduate drain, 30% less spend/capita on Education, Sci & Transport?
Wales doesn't have the economic fundamentals to be independent.
We already have a great deal. We have a workforce and a lot of assets. They've been under developed by the UK state. With independence we'll be able to get our fundamentals right.
We already have a great deal. We have a workforce and a lot of assets. They've been under developed by the UK state. With independence we'll be able to get our fundamentals right.
What currency will you use?
Well it might just be expedient to use our own. Wales' economy being 20%/capita or so behind roUK makes the pound too strong for us. In the short term, a lower valued Welsh currency would make our exports competitive and bring much needed money & jobs
Well it might just be expedient to use our own. Wales' economy being 20%/capita or so behind roUK makes the pound too strong for us. In the short term, a lower valued Welsh currency would make our exports competitive and bring much needed money & jobs
Britain is just a small island and we've so much in common.
Statehood won't stop Wales being a British Nation. We're not the only island shared by nations. There's nothing to stop economic/political cooperation with Eng, Scot & Eire. This is desirable on an equal footing.
Statehood won't stop Wales being a British Nation. We're not the only island shared by nations. There's nothing to stop economic/political cooperation with Eng, Scot & Eire. This is desirable on an equal footing.
If we want prosperity, we can't sit back and wait for it. We can't complain at a political establishment in which we constitute a fraction of the whole to our detriment. So let's try a new approach. 3 mature democratic states, allies on equal terms.
