🚨IMPORTANT Information about protests thread.
At the current protests there may be funded agent provocateurs inciting chaos to warp the narrative and/or different groups attempting to capitalize on a bad situation.
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At the current protests there may be funded agent provocateurs inciting chaos to warp the narrative and/or different groups attempting to capitalize on a bad situation.
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Differences (simplified):
-Protest: is public objection/disapproval of policy/action etc & there is absolute right to protest (1st Amendment)
-Riot: form of civil disorder by a group lashing out in a violent public disturbance against authority etc. It is illegal.
NOTE:(INAL)
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-Protest: is public objection/disapproval of policy/action etc & there is absolute right to protest (1st Amendment)
-Riot: form of civil disorder by a group lashing out in a violent public disturbance against authority etc. It is illegal.
NOTE:(INAL)
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Agent provocateurs/inciting agents:
Definition: One who purposefully lures or persuades someone into breaking the law when that person may not have done so alone (and then if they are cops they arrests them)
- They can have their own nefarious reasons.
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Definition: One who purposefully lures or persuades someone into breaking the law when that person may not have done so alone (and then if they are cops they arrests them)
- They can have their own nefarious reasons.
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For these protests there may be groups hijacking the current protests for their own needs e.g:
-Undercover cops to stir up chaos + arrest
-Anti-fa & anarchists
-Funded agent provocateurs e.g Russia/alt right funded/influenced useful idiots
- Any groups with a separate agenda
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-Undercover cops to stir up chaos + arrest
-Anti-fa & anarchists
-Funded agent provocateurs e.g Russia/alt right funded/influenced useful idiots
- Any groups with a separate agenda
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They wear disguises to blend in. Police have done it many times in the US for anti-war protests,at the RNC and DNC. They can look like anyone: "The officers hoist protest signs. They hold flowers with mourners..."
nytimes.com/2005/12/22/nyr…
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nytimes.com/2005/12/22/nyr…
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They have previously been used to arrest people:
"...undercover Denver detectives staged a struggle with a police commander to get pulled out of the crowd without blowing their cover"
denverpost.com/2008/11/06/acl…
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"...undercover Denver detectives staged a struggle with a police commander to get pulled out of the crowd without blowing their cover"
denverpost.com/2008/11/06/acl…
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Another good example: Cops have done it in other countries e.g during the HK protests
HK protests
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HK protests
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They may be paid/used to incite destruction or illegal activity for arrests or ulterior motives. Recently there was this man purported to be a cop- there is a name floating around but it hasn't been verified. In the clip he is destroying windows non-nonchalantly by himself.
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They could be any group with a separate agenda e.g anti-fa or anarchists or potentially people with ulterior motives masquerading as either to provoke people to act illegally (see next).
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They could be potentially be Russian funded: operatives, trolls or alt-right/MAGAs doing it to hijack the message, cause division etc
nytimes.com/2020/03/10/us/…
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nytimes.com/2020/03/10/us/…
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It's important to understand at the moment they could be any group w/ a different agenda. I won't/can't presuppose who they are or what their agenda is. However just remember one of the main purposes of agent provocateurs is to cause chaos, division & instability.
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Disclosure: I'm white & this is a hard one & may be sensitive issue but I have seen some footage that is predominately white people destroying property. I don't know who they are (could be any of the above) but they are hijacking the protests for their own purposes/agenda
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The protests have arisen (& will arise) due to a multitude of reasons e.g years of unrelenting racism, police brutality & injustice & are far to complex for me to convey on a single tweet (also it's not my place).
Please see Killer Mike's speech :
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Please see Killer Mike's speech :
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Main take away: Video record all those who you don't believe represent your message if they appear to be agent provocateurs. Remember Putin, Trump & MAGAs want to cause division whether its race, politics etc especially leading up to the election. Stay safe. I support you.
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CRITICAL POINT: I don't necessary endorse all the tweeters whose clips I shared (mainly talking about Rogan O'hadley).I've included it
1)Because it highlighted the point I was making &
2)It shows how MAGAs will politicise & attempt to cause division between blacks/whites.
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1)Because it highlighted the point I was making &
2)It shows how MAGAs will politicise & attempt to cause division between blacks/whites.
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CRITICAL POINT: I don't endorse Rogan O'hadley he is a MAGA.I've included the tweet
1) Because it highlighted the point I was making
2) It shows how MAGAs will politicise the protests if there is destruction/chaos & attempt to cause/provoking division between blacks/whites.
1) Because it highlighted the point I was making
2) It shows how MAGAs will politicise the protests if there is destruction/chaos & attempt to cause/provoking division between blacks/whites.
Crazy 2 hours after initially posting the thread we find out that for Minnesota: "atleast 80% of arrests were from out of State" and "white nationalists are promoting on message boards for others to go there and loot and cause chaos". See @JoyAnnReid thread.
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Update: Trump/Putin & Barrs main goal is to create an oligarchy/totalitarian as well as divide &destroy USA from the inside out. With Barr &Trump speaking out against "left extremists" it's more likely right wing extremists masquerading as leftists.This is their game plan
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In the initial thread it was important to set the groundwork of what agent provocateurs could/may be & look like (objectively).w/ that in mind we can go forward w/ new evidence &be informed of their game plan.Trump/Russia has been inciting/funding right-wing groups for years
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We were heading in the right direction. Erik Prince (EP) (good friends w/ Putin/Trump) has been recruiting ex-spies to "infiltrate liberal groups".It's no great leap to assume these operatives/ppl sympathetic to EP's agenda would act as funders/AP's.
nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/…
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nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/…
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Alt-right/White nationalist agitators use the codename "boogaloo" in a hope to cause a race/civil war. Also there are hardcore " 'accelerationist' who are encouraging their neo-nazi followers to go to protests and carry out acts of violence...".
vice.com/en_us/article/…
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vice.com/en_us/article/…
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See my Anon vs QAnon thread for more details regarding radicalising of White men/women 4 the agenda of others (below).They (Russia/Trump/Alt-right) attempt to be sympathetic to ANY cause w/ faux concern 4 the actual issue to recruit & co-opt issues
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This is a good way to deal w/ agitators/accelerationists/agent provocateurs.Well done to the protesters for handing him in & to the cops for letting the other protester go after he explained it. Jst note some may be cops so they may not get prosecuted
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