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Related: if Wicked Abrahamic Religion in general manifests, it may CLAIM "oh it's Catholicism," but odds are the big bad is gonna be G-D, not Jesus; reluctance to confront specific Christian doctrine ends up making it feel de facto anti-Jewish instead by giving Christians an out.
Since - as I have mentioned - for many whose primary interaction w/Abrahamic imagery & culture is Christianity, Judaism registers as "Christianity minus Jesus," therefore subtracting Jesus is all Christians seem to need to make it Not About Us (cont)
And since Jews are defined as Christianity -, Christianity 0.5, subtracting Jesus therefore almost immediately seems to place a religious image or fictional institution resembling Abrahamic doctrine into the "Jewish" zone, ESPECIALLY given the Christian assumption of Jews = power
Somehow even NOW in the eyes of Christendom Jewishness seems to be the "power" in the Abrahamic sphere, with Christians and Christ as the Noble Downtrodden Liminal Underclass.
I should be clear that this is the trick that is essential within the Christian narrative - or at least, as an outsider, it seems thus to me. Christ is inherently a liminal, underclass figure in the Christian worldview, and therefore sanctifies Christianity with a similar role.
I'm not inherently calling this out, mind; Christ WAS a liminal figure in his mythos, and some early Christians DID make a point of ministering to slaves and the underclass as well as the rich and powerful.

But note who gets the "wicked power" signifiers: Jews, not Rome.
Ironically this almost feels - again, outside perspective - like it's more severe among Protestant cultural spaces (& ones influenced thus) than among Catholics, because Protestantism seems to even MORE need to associate itself with a perceived downtrodden Elect to be virtuous.
Like say what you will about the Catholic Church's incredibly fucked up history of missionary colonialism, moral license to imperialism and general abuse of power but there's seemingly at least SOME mature grappling with the nature of their church as The Power, not the Underclass
It feels like modern Catholic narratives HAVE to grapple with the "ok, we won, we subsumed Rome, we are the Rock of the Christian world. What do we do with that power? How do we wield it justly?"

rather than simply pretending they don't have it & are abominably oppressed?

I am not making excuses for Catholics. I'm just saying: it feels like many Protestants are even MORE in denial, even MORE prone to this trick that pegs Jews & Adonai in the "power" column, vs Christ.
Yeah, this. It feels like a huuuuuge part of many Protestant denominations' foundational experiences has been their perceived repetition of the experience of the early Christians, with Catholicism as the New Rome, the wicked World out to crush them.
Catholics had to evolve a mental map of "God and the virtuous flock as the Order", but many Protestants seem to be deeply uncomfortable with that and constantly seeking the spiritual legitimacy of being a persecuted underclass no matter how powerful they actually are.
And of course even the Catholic Passion narratives ultimately do the weird rhetorical trick of placing the power and the wicked usurpation of authority not in the hands of Rome, Jesus' executioners, but in the Hebrew authorities who supposedly condemned him.
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