ECMO has been around since the 1970s. this image shows a successful ECMO run! however, ecmo in the 1970s wasn't generally awesome.
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- current ECMO: portable, may be started in the field.
- remainder of talk will focus on venovenous ECMO.
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does ECMO work?
- CESAR trial: transport to ECMO center improved survival. Controversial b/c many patients didn't actually get ECMO.
- EOLIA trial: stopped early, but bayesian re-analysis suggested may be positive after all ?!?
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UK - at baseline, 5 referral centers with 30 ECMO beds (currently more due to COVID).
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cameo appearance by @DGlaucomflecken !
how much peep? ALL THE PEEP
(although maybe that's not fantastic for the right ventricle)
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hemodialysis used to be restricted to a few centers, but now it's widely available everywhere.
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evidence-based division between high- vs low-volume center might be as low as 6 cases per year, per ELSO
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lack of proven benefit for ECMO?
There is no proven benefit for much of what we do in the ICU !
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expense? ECMO appears to be more cost-effective than hemodialysis.
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lack of a destination can be a problem, but this is often our fault if we cannulate the wrong patients.
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selection of appropriate candidates up front can be tricky. which patients would do OK without ECMO?
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evolution of ECMO - might we reach a point where we could move directly to awake ECMO to minimize ventilator-induced injury?
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outcomes from ECMO at Segun's center (2 deaths from ICH, 2 from refractory organ failure, most survived!)
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how to place a consult: you MUST understand the five stages of consultant grief.
once you can understand this painful and natural process, requesting consults will make a LOT more sense
buckle up, it can be a little rough…
🧵 1/6…
stage 1: denial
- You dont need a consult.
- You called the wrong service.
- 18 years old? consult pediatrics
- I’m not actually on call now
- Everything’s fine, just walk it off…
stage 2: anger
- you should have consulted us earlier/later
- you should have checked this test before calling us
- you’re a terrible doctor/student/human being