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Maryanne Trump Barry was serving as a federal judge when she heard her brother, President Trump, on Fox News.

“At the time, children were being separated from their parents and put in cramped quarters while court hearings dragged on.
“ ‘All he wants to do is appeal to his base,’ Barry said in a conversation secretly recorded by her niece, Mary L. Trump. ‘He has no principles. None. None. And his base, I mean my God, if you were a religious person, you want to help people. Not do this.’
“Barry, 83, was aghast at how her 74-year-old brother operated as president. ‘His goddamned tweet and lying, oh my God,’ she said. ‘I’m talking too freely, but you know. The change of stories. The lack of preparation. The lying. Holy shit.’
“Lamenting ‘what they’re doing with kids at the border,’ she guessed her brother ‘hasn’t read my immigration opinions’ in court cases. In one case, she berated a judge for failing to treat an asylum applicant respectfully.
“ ‘What has he read?’ Mary Trump asked her aunt.
“ ‘No. He doesn’t read,’ Barry responded.”
“At one point Barry said to her niece, ‘It’s the phoniness of it all. It’s the phoniness and this cruelty. Donald is cruel.’ “
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