Do eggs raise our cholesterol? How can we make sense of the confusing contradictory messages?

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I thought this was pretty clear to most but I kept getting this Q so I made a short video going over the evidence. Here's the gist.
College students were given 1 large egg/day vs. a comparable diet without the egg

after 3 weeks both LDL-cholesterol and ApoB significantly increased in the egg group

sciencedirect.com/science/articl…
ok, that's just 1 study. who cares. maybe there was something weird about those students...

RCT fed people egg or egg substitute. they were able to do it double-blind: neither the volunteers (similar taste) nor the experimenters knew who was on eggs
academic.oup.com/ajcn/article-a…
indeed cholesterol rose from baseline when people were on eggs

here's the genius part. they switched the groups mid-way (cross-over study)

adding egg bumps cholesterol ~20points, removing them makes it drop again. on and off like a rollercoaster Image
ok but those were free-living subjects. who knows. maybe they changed their diet and it confounded the results

we need to keep the volunteers at the research center for the whole study and control every bite of food they take

lucky for us, that's been done dozens of times
meta-analysis of >70 metabolic ward studies on effect of dietary cholesterol and saturated fat on blood lipids

tl,dr: swapping 10% cals from sat fat with whole carbs drops cholesterol by 20 pts; cutting 200mgs cholest (~1 egg) drops another 5 pts

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…
in fact the effect of saturated fat (and secondarily, dietary cholesterol) on blood lipids is one of the most reliable observations in nutrition science

you know something is reproducible when there's a mathematical equation for it

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._Mark_H….
ok so we have a very specific question, experimentally very tractable (so much so people can do the experiment themselves) and has been addressed ad nauseam in the literature

then why does this appear so controversial??!!?
it helps to understand the full breadth of the effect

the effect of food on blood lipids is dependent on context (more specifically, your baseline)

i.e. the higher your blood levels, the smaller the effect of a dietary increase in sat fat/cholest

citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/downlo… Image
this is not specific to cholesterol. many parameters work like that

that dynamic means that specific values will vary depending on baseline
so if we take hypercholesterolemic individuals (typical western diet, high sat fat/cholest) and add a bit more (e.g. 1 extra egg), a small or no difference is expected

this is routinely done in egg industry-funded studies
the problem is not the experiment, it's the interpretation

seeing no sig. change means an extra egg makes no difference *in that specific context*. not that "eggs don't affect serum cholesterol". yet this is often what you'll see implied in the paper and esp. in the media blurbs
the (predictable and, indeed, desired) result is confusion

other ways to manipulate experimental design and thereby confuse include

1) the choice of comparison foods (compare eggs to butter and they look pretty good)
2) a more sophisticated approach: acknowledge eggs raise LDL-c but argue that's fine bc some other parameter "makes up for it" (HDL-C, particle size etc)

(preponderance of evidence indicates neither is likely to do much to offset a LDL-c/apoB rise)

mdpi.com/2072-6643/9/2/…
ok so are eggs good or bad?

neither. they have substantial SFA and cholest but overall dietary pattern >>>> individual foods

this means a dietary pattern can include some eggs AND be healthy (or unhealthy)

and vice versa
so how much can we get away with? depends (on your lipids, overall health, family history etc etc etc). some people can handle more than others. that's life

e.g. if your lipids are stellar, chances are you have more leeway. if they're iffy, you have less room to play
PS. some will say 'sure, dietary cholesterol/SFA raises LDL-C/apoB, that's established. but do those markers translate to higher risk of CVD? that's the question'

and yes, preponderance of evidence overwhelmingly says they do. covered it here:

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“Are eggs good or bad?”

A fascinating recent study looked at this perennial question.

HT @TheBhupiThakur


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One of the main differences between science and Social Media content is how they deal with heterogeneity.
Social Media feeds you polarization. One FB forum argues eggs are poison, and shows you only the studies reporting risk.

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The Twinkie diet

In 2010, a nutrition Professor set up an experiment

he ate 1800 cals/day mainly from ultraprocessed sweets, Doritos, sugary cereal and Oreos
edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11…
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his LDL-C dropped 20%. his triglycerides, 39%

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Once you understand HDL-cholesterol is not causally protective, it's straightforward to see why some of the popular ratios can be misleading

quick 🧵 using TC/HDL-c as example
to make the math easier let´say my HDL-c is 40mg/dL and my total cholesterol (TC) is 200

That’s a TC/HDL-c ratio of 5
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Now my ratio is 3
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Does high ApoB still raise risk if I´m “metabolically healthy”?

The evidence indicates it DOES.

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The idea that cholesterol level is completely irrelevant has largely subsided.

As the public is exposed to more scientific evidence, it has become increasingly obvious that blanket denial is not realistic.

So a more nuanced idea emerged.

“it´s about context”
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"low cholesterol correlates with higher all-cause mortality so having high cholesterol is protective"

a misunderstanding that refuses to die

we know with a very high degree of certainty that this idea is *wrong*

3 lines of evidence:
1) lowering cholesterol via randomized clinical trials or genetically determined shows, if anything, *lower* total mortality

this comfortably supersedes the associational U-curve
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…
thelancet.com/action/showPdf…
academic.oup.com/ije/article/44…
thelancet.com/journals/lanhl…
2) even the authors of some of the U curve studies have alerted (in no uncertain terms) against concluding causality from those associations

bmj.com/content/371/bm…
bmj.com/content/371/bm…
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