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Aug 26, 2020 12 tweets 4 min read Read on X
If you are going to comment on matters of Science, read the research papers. It may be a tad difficult, but possible. Don't go by half-baked media reports

It may be unfair to blame @AshaRangappa_ for her conclusions based on a 'news report'. How would she know that the report blatantly contradicts the studies it is reporting on, unless she reads the studies? So here they are:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…
scholar.harvard.edu/files/vagheesh…
If you want to know how this - and other - 'news reports' directly contradict the studies, you can read the studies linked above yourself, or read this article of mine, with direct quotations from the two studies:
thehindu.com/society/histor…
Or you could listen to this interview with V. Narasimhan, lead author of ‘The Formation of Human Populations in South & Central Asia,’ written by 117 scientists. Note the map showing the migrations & the spread of Indo-European languages around the world
podcastaddict.com/?id=80871393
Or you could read this interview with Prof. David Reich, well-known population geneticist and author of ‘Who We Are and How We Got Here’, on the two studies that he co-directed and what they mean for South Asian prehistory:
economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/science/s…
So how did 'The Week' and many other apparently 'credible' news sources fall for this blatant twisting of the research reports? The answer lies in journalistic incompetence or jounalistic deceit, or a combination of the two, depending on which publication we are speaking of.
But let's be magnanimous and just say that they were just incompetent, and were led astray by the sources they talked to, and they didn't have either the competence or the good sense to read the research papers themselves - or even just their summaries!!
The deceit lies in suggesting that the 'lack of Steppe ancestry' in the Harappan genome is proof that there was no 'Arya' migration. This is beyond ridiculous, because it was always known that the 'Arya' migration POST-DATES the Harappan Civilization!
In other words, it was always known that there were no 'Arya' in the Harappan Civilization. The lack of Steppe ancestry in Harappa - unlike its robust presence in the Indian population today - is, therefore, STRONG evidence that the 'Arya' migration occurred later.
Here is the full Twitter thread I did on the two genetic stuies, on the day they appeared last year:
Those who are wondering why some people go to all this trouble to distort scientific findings may find this video useful:
They may also find this piece interesting:
indianexpress.com/article/opinio…

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Sep 12
@RShivshankar The layers of ignorance and misreading/misleading embedded into the tweet above should not be surprising for anyone who has observed Indian television news media. But for the sake of verity, let us unpeel them one by one...
@RShivshankar 1. The interview RSS has attached to his tweet is over five years old, and was published on September 9, 2019. So let us first put to bed the idea that RSS has suddenly discovered a new revelation...
@RShivshankar 1. ‘Aryan Invasion Theory' has lived on only in the imagination of Rightwing polemicists for about half a century now. What actually exists is multi-disciplinary evidence for migration (not invasion) of Central Asian Steppe pastoralists to South Asia between 2000 and 1500 BCE...
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Jul 19
Many do not understand that Indian languages fall into 4 different families: Indo-European, Dravidian, Austro-Asiatic & Sino-Tibetan. These are not dialectal differences, meaning the differences go to the root & are structural, even if there are many shared words.
It is generally, though not always, easier for speakers of one language family - say Malayalam, Tamil and Telugu speakers - to pick up each other's languages than it is for speakers of two different language families to do so.
Therefore, if you are moving into a region whose language belongs to a different family altogether, the onus is on YOU to make a special effort to learn it. The effort needed is much less otherwise. This understanding comes naturally to some, but not to others. Sadly.
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Apr 18
A fascinating new ancient DNA study is just out, titled “The Genetic Origin of The Indo-Europeans”. Among the co-authors are Iosif Lazaridis, Nick Patterson, David Anthony & David Reich. It brings greater detail and clarity to our understanding. Here goes:
biorxiv.org/content/10.110…
“We thus propose that the final unity of the speakers of the 'Proto-Indo-Anatolian' ancestral language of both Anatolian and Indo-European languages can be traced to Caucuses-Lower-Volga (CVC) cline people sometime between 440 and 4000 BCE.” Image
“The Yamnaya culture stands as the unifying factor of all attested Indo-European languages.”
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Dec 30, 2021
"The only place where 'Aryan Invasion Theory' has existed for about half a century is the imagination of polemicists. And they keep it alive because it's good to have a handy strawman... It is surprising to see IIT Kharagpur giving them company."
My piece:
thequint.com/voices/opinion…
What does exist in the real world is strong, multi-disciplinary evidence for the ‘migration’ of Central Asian Steppe pastoralists into the Indian subcontinent between 2000 and 1500 BCE, bringing Indo-European languages with them to this region.
The remarkable and unique Harappan civilization, the largest civilization of its time (as big as Mesopotamian & Egyptian civilizations put together), precedes the arrival of the Indo-European language speaking people who called themselves 'Arya', by far.
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Oct 16, 2020
Starting a long-term thread on questions that need answers. Perhaps when media has free time after covering Kangana Ranaut, they could tackle these:

1. WHY is it that no other Asian economy has cratered like ours?
2. HOW did our neighbours manage a far lower Covid death rate?
3. WHY is it that India's richest have increased their wealth dramatically (35%) during a time of devastation that has seen GDP contracting & hundreds millions thrown into poverty? What does it imply in terms of wealth concentration, monopolies/oligopolies & creation of jobs?
4. WHY is India the only democracy in the world where ruling party politicians have made it a practice to come on to the streets to protect and defend rapist-murderers and to
terrorize the families of their victims - from Kathua to Unnao to Hathras?
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Oct 7, 2020
The main driving force behind the Indian Rightwing movement is upper class resentment over ancient privileges diluted by democracy. Its objective is a hierarchical future similar to what tradition dictates. The hate you see is the necessary force to create the new hierarchy.
Does that mean that is the only force? Of course not. There are other forces too, but they are not formative or creative forces that shape policy in any way. They are mostly for show. For example, the movement gained from the anti-corruption sentiment built up between 2010 & 2014
And think for yourself, what was the result of that ‘sentimental force’?😀The biggest electoral funding scam anywhere in the world that legalised opaque & unlimited funding of politicians by cronies, called ‘Electoral Bonds’!! 🥲
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